Marine "A"C-130s AKA "Harvest Hawk"

[scoober78]

Probably wouldn't be to hard to hang a jamming pod or two on the wings and pick up the Prowler mission too.

This is a bit of what I worry about with this project. There is more to ISR than a platform and there are better CAS assets than C-130's I suspect.

 

[jfulginiti]

True from an engineering standpoint, and the Air Force already did that (jamming pods on C-130s) and picked up some but not allof the Prowler mission. There is some capability overlap between those platforms but they are not the same thing and each can do certain things that the other cannot.

I think it's moot anyway, because airborne EW is already coordinated by "higher" echelons- as it probably should be and will continue to be. (With due regard to OPSEC, suffice to say there are good reasons for this.) Therefore it might be a tough sell to start up a USMC EC-130 program when there is already a similar and mature USAF EC-130 program.

Now from a doctrine standpoint would the Marines really want an organic weapons system that is a single platform with significant (kinetic) fire support and ISR and EW capabilities? Kind of an open ended question here

Yeah, agree. I wasn't thinking the ENTIRE Prowler mission, just the specific one they're doing now. Slap an E-2 dome on top, strap some AMRAAM/AIM-9X on there too..... what else do you need?

 

[usmarinemike]

Yeah, agree. I wasn't thinking the ENTIRE Prowler mission, just the specific one they're doing now. Slap an E-2 dome on top, strap some AMRAAM/AIM-9X on there too..... what else do you need?

How bout a spray bar for defolient to get rid of those poppies?

Oh, and a cannon mounted under the nose a la Warthog.

And don't forget all the people in the back to work the mess. Marine NFO's just might have a shot.

 

[phrogdriver]

Viper Strike and Griffin, both will come off the ramp.



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I know Viper Strike, but have been looking for a description of Griffin online and haven't been able to find much substantive on it. Any links or thumbnail description?

 

[mmx1]

Page 3:
http://www.quad-a.org/Conventions/C...ngs/PM JAMS briefing 20090501 final-2 (2).pdf

 

[HeyJoe]

This all goes back to having an efficient COIN aircraft. We need the OV-10 back with an L-POD, upgraded engines, and avionics. Not the single engine crap they are offering up or Cargo C-130s with weapons.

Somebody heard you....or least thinks the same way.

Proposed new production OV-10X with updated engines, avionics and armament.

 

[Birdog8585]

read the wrong program req's = ima weetawd

 

[Lawman]

YGBFSM!! So by amphibious do they mean with floats or capable of surviving at sea? So then maybe they mean Amphibs??...oooo.

Been done before...

 

[Birdog8585]

We've had the discussion before -> (start at about #134) http://www.airwarriors.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137084&page=4

 

[Pags]

YGBFSM!! So by amphibious do they mean with floats or capable of surviving at sea? So then maybe they mean Amphibs??...oooo.

The LARA program was the original 60s era program. The current one is the LAAR program and it's requirements are: "for a tandem-seat advanced-trainer/light-attack aircraft able to operate from a 6,000ft semi-prepared runway, reach 180kt and fly for 5 hours carrying an EO/IR sensor, datalinks and weapons."