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Marine NFO

Brett327

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It's frustrating to read this and realize how ass backwards our budgets are. I went through -101 as a student, and heard all the horror stories about flight hours and such from my Marine IP's. Then I got to my fleet sqdn, basically immediately post deployment, and I quite literally have flown at least once a day since the day after I checked in. We honestly don't have enough pilots to fly the flight hours we need to fly, so this isn't just me the FNG, it is every pilot who is available to fly. I'm grateful to have such a good deal going, but it bums me out that we are crushing our Marine brothers in terms of readiness. Granted some of that difference is single seat ready room vs family model, but it clearly is more than that since I heard the same from my non-CVN S/S USMC friends.
Some of that is because of where you are in your readiness cycle. You'll be funded more aggressively for the first 90 days post cruise because you're typically in a surge status. Depending on when you cruise next, things will probably mellow out until you begin work-ups again.

Brett
 

theredfox52

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I will be blunt, your chances of getting a spot with the USN are slim to none and slim is halfway out the door, 6 months ago I would have said zero chance the change being how the GPA on the application is interpreted, when the new application came out they said the GPA on page one was to be the GPA of the last degree earned, not combined with CC or subsequent classes taken after earning the last degree, that would sink you since the PA for USN aviation programs is 2.5 minimum, now they are up in the air and we are waiting on a decision, if no actual decision is made it will be left up to the program manager, but they told us before do not send up kits with low GPA's of course everyone ignores that, as a consequence there is talk of not forwarding applications that do not meet the average from the last board. The board from January had numbers that were way skewed, and not in line with any board in the past several years, they did pick up people with low GPA's but they also had high ASTB scores.

Are you going for Pilot as well? NFO goal in the USN is about 1/4 of the pilot goal, what is picked at the April board is going to depend how many of the NFO selections from January sign, many of the those selected NFO were also selected Pilot so medical is a factor as well.

I will go for Pilot first and foremost because that is the position that I am most interested in. I'm just going to apply anyway. It's not like I have anything to lose now. The recruiter that I spoke to said that if I want to catch the April board, I have two weeks to get everything in order. I already have been through MEPS, and I do not have any physical limitations just a clean bill of health; excellent hearing, 20/20 vision, and no waivers. My ASTB is 6/6/7, but that was almost three years ago. I still want to take it again because I know I can score higher.
 

theredfox52

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I'm also still going to apply for the AF once I get my PPL and improve my AFOQT and TBAS scores. I'm also going to keep an eye out for Marine air contracts if they pop up again for this coming fall and winter occ classes. I will not rest until all the branches tell me that I am too old to apply for anything. I WILL NOT QUIT. I don't care how hard headed or stubborn people tell me I am. I am in perfect health, have the mental and physical aptitude to be a pilot, and have the character and leadership to be a great officer. My low GPA is the result of a professor who played favorites, didn't like me, and failed me in two of his classes. If it weren't for him, I would have a solid 3.0 GPA, but there is nothing I can do about that now. All I have left is the determination to never quit.
 

MIDNJAC

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Some of that is because of where you are in your readiness cycle. You'll be funded more aggressively for the first 90 days post cruise because you're typically in a surge status. Depending on when you cruise next, things will probably mellow out until you begin work-ups again.

Brett

Rog makes sense. Either way, it is money for guys like me trying to get through the SFWT syllabus early on. My timing already kind of sucks for making level 4, so every chance I can get for an x is a beautiful thing.
 

Criminal

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I'm also going to keep an eye out for Marine air contracts if they pop up again for this coming fall and winter occ classes. .

My 2 cents....
You've probably seen it before on here, but if all you want to do is fly (which is what it sounds like), don't go for a Marine spot. Mainly, if you go Marine with your air contract and 'something' happens (lose contract, not complete flight school, get retarded in TBS and decide you love ground stuff), then you have to finish your contracted time as ground job, perhaps far far away from any airplane. If all you wanted wass flight, now you're 'stuck' with a job you don't want, chances are you're gona suck at it and not care... which is bad for your guys, and you. Just keep that in mind, there are other options to serve your country and fly while not doing the whole 'beat my ass into the ground' thing.
 

exNavyOffRec

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I'm also still going to apply for the AF once I get my PPL and improve my AFOQT and TBAS scores. I'm also going to keep an eye out for Marine air contracts if they pop up again for this coming fall and winter occ classes. I will not rest until all the branches tell me that I am too old to apply for anything. I WILL NOT QUIT. I don't care how hard headed or stubborn people tell me I am. I am in perfect health, have the mental and physical aptitude to be a pilot, and have the character and leadership to be a great officer. My low GPA is the result of a professor who played favorites, didn't like me, and failed me in two of his classes. If it weren't for him, I would have a solid 3.0 GPA, but there is nothing I can do about that now. All I have left is the determination to never quit.
How much longer do you have until you hit 26? also remember new accessions physicals are only good for 2 years from the exam date.
 

exNavyOffRec

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I turn 26 on the 4th of October. I went to MEPS last November so it will expire on November 2013.
You will hit age limit before your physical expires so you don't have to worry about that, you will have 2 shots, maybe 3, the board in April, possible November, and possible January 2013.
 

theredfox52

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You will hit age limit before your physical expires so you don't have to worry about that, you will have 2 shots, maybe 3, the board in April, possible November, and possible January 2013.

Thank you, NavyOffRec. Here's my thinking; I could very well apply for the April board with only two weeks left to do it, or I could just prepare for the ASTB, collect good LORs, fill out the Navy application and wait for the November and January boards.
 

Sonog

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I'm no recruiting expert, but in today's climate passing up boards probably isn't good gouge.
 
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