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Minimum ASTB scores for pilot slot
- Thread starter BurghGuy
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Taz24th said:
If you are a 1/C mid and you took that test in your freshman year, better make very certain the scores are still good. Can't remember how long the test results are good for, but three years is a long time. Also, make certain the guys offering advise are knowledgeable on the competitive profile of ROTC mids going aviation. Most of the guys here are most familier with the OCS process. I'd bet the competitive scores are higher for the OCS guys. I can say your scores, even with your GPA, would be on the low side for an OCS app. Don't know about ROTC. Your Mil Sci Profs can't give you a hint?? They see guys go out every year.
You have a solid GPA, and I'm assuming a technical major. Your ASTB scores should work, but it's really up to you about taking the test again. The first score if the AQR not OAR. Your scores meet the minimums. Here are a few things to consider before taking the test.
1. The test scores you have are good (enough). You beat the min of 3/4/4 with a 5/6/5 and your GPA will carry even a min score of 3/4/4.
2. The test is different than the one you took 3 years ago and the rules have changed. You now only get three chances (Old tests don't count against the lifetime limit of three). So if you take the test again to attempt a higher score, and you don't do well, you'll have to wait 31 days to take it again. (See my previous post about Forms 3, 4, &5: http://www.airwarriors.com/forum/showpost.php?p=90130&postcount=1)
3. You'll need to study. Once exposed to the test format, the testing is easier but you'll still need to know the prequisit information.
4. How badly do you want to get aviation. Are you willing to bet that your scores will get you where you need to be? What IF you bomb the test and you need to wait 31 days? Will you still be able to make the deadline of October?
One last question: Are you shooting for a SNA or SNFO spot? Your numbers are stronger for SNA, but the Navy really needs SNFOs.
Just some thoughts. Does your unit have ANY aviation types that can give you any feedback about your package? CO, XO, Instructors?
hope some of this helps....But one thing I will not do is TELL YOU FLAT OUT that you Should or Should not take the test again. If you had another year, I'd say give it a shot, but with it being so close to the wire, it's really up to you after you weight the Positives and the Negatives. Good luck.
ea6bflyr
Side note: OCS Packages require a much higher ASTB scores (>7) than NROTC/Naval Academy. OCS guys/gals are fighting for fewer spots than NROTC/USNA, which are PRIMARY commissioning sources. Typically NROTC and USNA get about 125-200 (or so) SNA slots (and about 100 SNFO slots), whereas, OCS may get only a handful per year.
1. The test scores you have are good (enough). You beat the min of 3/4/4 with a 5/6/5 and your GPA will carry even a min score of 3/4/4.
2. The test is different than the one you took 3 years ago and the rules have changed. You now only get three chances (Old tests don't count against the lifetime limit of three). So if you take the test again to attempt a higher score, and you don't do well, you'll have to wait 31 days to take it again. (See my previous post about Forms 3, 4, &5: http://www.airwarriors.com/forum/showpost.php?p=90130&postcount=1)
3. You'll need to study. Once exposed to the test format, the testing is easier but you'll still need to know the prequisit information.
4. How badly do you want to get aviation. Are you willing to bet that your scores will get you where you need to be? What IF you bomb the test and you need to wait 31 days? Will you still be able to make the deadline of October?
One last question: Are you shooting for a SNA or SNFO spot? Your numbers are stronger for SNA, but the Navy really needs SNFOs.
Just some thoughts. Does your unit have ANY aviation types that can give you any feedback about your package? CO, XO, Instructors?
hope some of this helps....But one thing I will not do is TELL YOU FLAT OUT that you Should or Should not take the test again. If you had another year, I'd say give it a shot, but with it being so close to the wire, it's really up to you after you weight the Positives and the Negatives. Good luck.
ea6bflyr
Side note: OCS Packages require a much higher ASTB scores (>7) than NROTC/Naval Academy. OCS guys/gals are fighting for fewer spots than NROTC/USNA, which are PRIMARY commissioning sources. Typically NROTC and USNA get about 125-200 (or so) SNA slots (and about 100 SNFO slots), whereas, OCS may get only a handful per year.
Taz24th said:
Wedge,
Like others said, not really important but if you REALLY want your scores, you can contact NOMI with your request:
ea6bflyr
From NOMI: http://www.nomi.med.navy.mil/astboar.htm
Like others said, not really important but if you REALLY want your scores, you can contact NOMI with your request:
ea6bflyr
From NOMI: http://www.nomi.med.navy.mil/astboar.htm
Wedge said:
Taz24th
Proud member of Class 903
I appreciate your advice and wisdom ea6bflyr. I've decided that I'm not going to take the test over, which I decided on my own prior to seeing these new postings, because I'm not going to risk bombing on the new format and being put out of running all together. Everything I have done since grade school has been to earn a slot as a SNA and become a navy pilot. However more importantly I will be an officer in the United States Navy first and as such I will leave it up to the navy as to whether I'm selected SNA or SNFO. I can only blame myself for not taking it over sooner if that's the case, but I have done the best I can and that's good enough for me. Thanks again ea6bflyr and hope to see yall in the fleet soon enough.
Very Respectfully,
-Taz24th
Very Respectfully,
-Taz24th
One of the best things I did as an NROTC Advisor was to set my students up for success. I told them to take the ASTB the second semester of their SOPH year or the first semester of their JR year. I also suggested that they at least have one Calc and one Physics class before taking the ASTB.
Tazz, you have a good shot at getting what you want. I've seen guys get SNA with minimum scores. It all comes down to the needs of the Navy and how many slots they need during your service selection. Good luck and let us know what happens. (March time frame?)
ea6bflyr
Tazz, you have a good shot at getting what you want. I've seen guys get SNA with minimum scores. It all comes down to the needs of the Navy and how many slots they need during your service selection. Good luck and let us know what happens. (March time frame?)
ea6bflyr
Taz24th
Proud member of Class 903
Service Selection Update
Thanks for all your help guys in deciding whether or not to take the ASTB over again. Here's the update; Service Selection- Naval Aviation: Pilot. All my hard work in school has finally paid off. I'm so pumped for flight school, and I'm gonna training all I've got and then some. See yall in the fleet soon. Hooooyyyaahhhh!!! FLY NAVY!!!
Thanks for all your help guys in deciding whether or not to take the ASTB over again. Here's the update; Service Selection- Naval Aviation: Pilot. All my hard work in school has finally paid off. I'm so pumped for flight school, and I'm gonna training all I've got and then some. See yall in the fleet soon. Hooooyyyaahhhh!!! FLY NAVY!!!