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Moving to P'Cola
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snizo
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Zippy is right - military clases are mandatatory under FL state law (not the case in TX!) You just have to be careful about how the deposit stuff is worded. I've heard people say that when they terminated their lease b/c of the mil clause, they lost their deposit (Governor's Gate). I lived in Fairfield Lakes (5 mins away from NASP and just as nice as Governor's) and ending the lease early was a peice of cake (and I never had a deposit in the first place).
Hassle of getting an apartment? I think you will regret thinking that later - you've surely done a lease before ... it isn't that big of a deal. Hassle of finding a place now, or the hassle of getting your broken and missing stuff out of storage later ...... hmm
Hassle of getting an apartment? I think you will regret thinking that later - you've surely done a lease before ... it isn't that big of a deal. Hassle of finding a place now, or the hassle of getting your broken and missing stuff out of storage later ...... hmm
snizo said:
I believe under the soldiers and sailors act (recently ammended) that it no longer matters:
"The SCRA allows individuals to break a lease when they go onto active duty, if the lease was entered into before going onto active duty. Additionally, the act allows a servicemember to terminate a residential lease entered into while in the military, if the member receives permanent change of station (PCS) orders, or orders to deploy for a period of not less than 90 days."
http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/sscra/a/scra2.htm
I'm pretty sure there's a military clause in TX. When I signed my lease in Dec it was on there, all we have to do is show orders and we're good.
On the whole Navy not moving your stuff, they won't move an SNA's stuff to Pcola since its a temporary duty station. Once you get orders to Corpus or Whiting they will move your stuff being that Primary is a permanent duty station.
On the whole Navy not moving your stuff, they won't move an SNA's stuff to Pcola since its a temporary duty station. Once you get orders to Corpus or Whiting they will move your stuff being that Primary is a permanent duty station.
FlyinDevil
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As far as the moving to Pcola for API, I think SNAs get only 600 lbs max since we are "under instruction". Then when we move to a permanent duty station, it is the regular 10,000lbs for 0-1 Single. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I, myself, am planning to do a Partial DITY to move down there for API. I'll probably have to head down there for a weekend to check apartments/houses.
I, myself, am planning to do a Partial DITY to move down there for API. I'll probably have to head down there for a weekend to check apartments/houses.
When you leave Pcola for your permanent station I believe you're only allowed 600 lbs. Thats what personal property told me when I moved, but they waived it since I'd been there for 6 months and I got the full govt move.
snizo
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ENSsquid - that quote is a bit misleading.
Servicemember's Relief Act:
The provisions of this section shall apply to any lease covering premises occupied for dwelling, professional, business, agricultural, or similar purposes in any case in which such lease was executed by or on the behalf of a person who, after the execution of such lease, entered military service...Termination of any such lease providing for monthly payment of rent shall not be effective until thirty days after the first date on which the next rental payment is due... (50 USC A 501)
The federal law only applies to you if you entered service after you started the lease - and even then, it says you are liable for 30 days AFTER the next rent due date (which could be up to 2 mos - the same liability for a lot of apartments for if you break the lease just because you feel like it). So - the act only applies to those of us who are in the same lease we had/have/will have when we commission.
Florida law, however, covers PCS moves -
Any servicemember may terminate his or her rental agreement by providing the landlord with a written notice of termination to be effective on the date stated in the notice that is at least 30 days after the landlord's receipt of the notice if ... the servicemember is required, pursuant to a permanent change of station orders, to move 35 miles or more from the location of the rental premises... (FL 83.682)
A lot of places in Corpus offer a military clause because otherwise they wouldn't ever rent their properties, but they are not required to do so by any federal or state law. The relief act is not the godsend some people make it out to be (the credit card rate change isn't what most people think, either).
Just make sure you read what you sign, is all...and, of course, this is just my interpretation of what I read.
Servicemember's Relief Act:
The provisions of this section shall apply to any lease covering premises occupied for dwelling, professional, business, agricultural, or similar purposes in any case in which such lease was executed by or on the behalf of a person who, after the execution of such lease, entered military service...Termination of any such lease providing for monthly payment of rent shall not be effective until thirty days after the first date on which the next rental payment is due... (50 USC A 501)
The federal law only applies to you if you entered service after you started the lease - and even then, it says you are liable for 30 days AFTER the next rent due date (which could be up to 2 mos - the same liability for a lot of apartments for if you break the lease just because you feel like it). So - the act only applies to those of us who are in the same lease we had/have/will have when we commission.
Florida law, however, covers PCS moves -
Any servicemember may terminate his or her rental agreement by providing the landlord with a written notice of termination to be effective on the date stated in the notice that is at least 30 days after the landlord's receipt of the notice if ... the servicemember is required, pursuant to a permanent change of station orders, to move 35 miles or more from the location of the rental premises... (FL 83.682)
A lot of places in Corpus offer a military clause because otherwise they wouldn't ever rent their properties, but they are not required to do so by any federal or state law. The relief act is not the godsend some people make it out to be (the credit card rate change isn't what most people think, either).
Just make sure you read what you sign, is all...and, of course, this is just my interpretation of what I read.
snizo
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This is what I was told when I was moving out of P'cola:
You're allowed to bring 600 lbs from your ROTC/USNA/stash command to P'cola.
And you are allowed 600 lbs out of P'cola ... BUT you are allowed a total of 10,000 lbs from your place of enlistment (rotc/usna) or your home of record ... and you can transfer that weight to pensacola. So - if you decided to bring 1,000 lbs from ROTC to API, you get paid for 600 lbs to API. When its time to go to Corpus or wherever, the 400 lbs gets 'charged' back to your home of record or place of enlistment. As long as one of those two to Corpus is a longer distance than P'cola to Corpus, you're good to go.
You're allowed to bring 600 lbs from your ROTC/USNA/stash command to P'cola.
And you are allowed 600 lbs out of P'cola ... BUT you are allowed a total of 10,000 lbs from your place of enlistment (rotc/usna) or your home of record ... and you can transfer that weight to pensacola. So - if you decided to bring 1,000 lbs from ROTC to API, you get paid for 600 lbs to API. When its time to go to Corpus or wherever, the 400 lbs gets 'charged' back to your home of record or place of enlistment. As long as one of those two to Corpus is a longer distance than P'cola to Corpus, you're good to go.
snizo said:
not really. Besides the pre-service leases that can be terminated (auto and dwelling), the ammendment Pres. Bush signed on December 19, 2003, you can now leave ANY (auto or dwelling) leases if you are PCSing or deployment for more than 90 days (180 days on a car if you are going OCONUS, includes dependents!!!)
http://www.gulpny.org/Housing/Topics/Servicememberscivilreliefact.htm
How much stuff can a guy at 22 or 23 have? I mean really!
Sell off anything that doesn't fit in your car before you leave for P'cola. You guys are all about to start a whole new life. Why bring all that baggage and stuff with you?
As for lodging - the BOQ is always a good option if you are single. besides within 2 months you will all be dating some chick in town and you can crash at her place when you need a real home once in a while.
Sell off anything that doesn't fit in your car before you leave for P'cola. You guys are all about to start a whole new life. Why bring all that baggage and stuff with you?
As for lodging - the BOQ is always a good option if you are single. besides within 2 months you will all be dating some chick in town and you can crash at her place when you need a real home once in a while.
ChuckMK23 said:
well, those of us NROTC/BDCP dudes have probably aquired furniture over ther years of apartment/house living. I know I had a bunch of stuff. Really pissed me off when they said they would only move like 600# of stuff. Since I was in PCola for too long, they made my orders PCS to PCola (and therefore got the full entitlement). I got rid of a bunch of good stuff for nothing!!!
/grumble grumble
PerfectDark
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trvsmrtn said:
Did you live at the corry Q or pensacola Q? I called both Qs about three weeks ago and the pensacola Q said it no longer takes API students even if it did have rooms available. If you do Primary in Whiting then living in the Whiting Q is an option for API. I am leaving TBS june 9 and will be a geo bachler for API. I am trying to avoid paying money for two different locations; my wifes apartment in northern VA and a place for myself while at API.
Is there anyone out there living in the corry Q? What expenses should I expect if I were to live there? How long does it take to drive to "work"? Any information on the corry Q would be appreciated.
PerfectDark said:
I live in the Q at Corry. When you get here, talk to Mr Raspberry. Getting a room is at Corry is about timing. You just have to be patient and wait for someone to check out. People check in and out every week. Remember that you get TLE for 10 days, so you can stay at a hotel and get reimbursed. Once you check in, get your orders stamped by the Q, then go to student control and one of the civilian guys will give you a stamp that says government mess is impracticable and it authorizes you a higher meal rate which ends up being $22 a day.
As far as expenses go, cable and cable internet is about $60 a month. The galley is right next to the Q and it's about $8 a day.
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