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NAS Fallon

Schnugg

It's gettin' a bit dramatic 'round here...
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Not to be a killjoy...but google "Fallon cancer"

There are ongoing investigations to attempt to determine why there are such high rates of childhood leukemia in that particular area.
 

FlyinSpy

Mongo only pawn, in game of life...
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Not to be a killjoy...but google "Fallon cancer"

There are ongoing investigations to attempt to determine why there are such high rates of childhood leukemia in that particular area.
Up until 2004, Fallon's tap water was about the worst I ever tasted. High mineral / salt content, plus lots of concerns about arsenic (which was always suspected as a possible contributor to the childhood leukemia rate). In 2004, they opened a new water treatment plant, and the difference is phenomenal - much more "normal" tap water.

BTW, as an NSAWC instructor/reservist, I was only out there for air wings - when things were busy and long days were common. It was my impression, though, that it was a good deal shore duty assignment for the RegNav instructors - very low key when wings or other classes were not around.
 

Flash

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Not to be a killjoy...but google "Fallon cancer"

There are ongoing investigations to attempt to determine why there are such high rates of childhood leukemia in that particular area.

Dumping gas was a big no-no unless you had an Emergency because of that, no link between the two from what I know but big Navy was erring on the side of caution, and PR.
 

feddoc

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Not to be a killjoy...but google "Fallon cancer"

There are ongoing investigations to attempt to determine why there are such high rates of childhood leukemia in that particular area.




http://www.rgj.com/extra/cancer.php

Not sure if they will ever come up with a reason; the latest gouge seems to be a combination of tungsten (previously thought to be inert) and childhood shingles. There are clusters like this across the US, the reasons for them are not clearly understood, especially when they come and go seemingly at random.

The City of Fallon and USN bought a reverse osmosis system. The water is good here.
 

helo_wifey

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BTW, as an NSAWC instructor/reservist, I was only out there for air wings - when things were busy and long days were common. It was my impression, though, that it was a good deal shore duty assignment for the RegNav instructors - very low key when wings or other classes were not around.


Thanks...I want him to choose something that's going to help his career. But, it seems like from the sound of it here the instructors aren't looked on highly? How does this compair to the weapons school in SD or TPS (2 of his other choices)?
 

hscs

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Any one of the three will work just nicely. Don't get caught up in the our frustration with some of the folks there. All three jobs will be looked upon favorably by the boards.

Your husband will probably have more time at home if he is at the weapons school in SD. If he plans on putting in an application for TPS, I would opt for the program that will get you a masters on the way. This will save you from worrying about it later.
 

1rotorhead

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Concur with HSCS about the quality of the jobs. I've got a good friend who is a helo bubba at NSAWC. He's getting out and the main reason is how little he's been at home. According to him, the hours are extremely long. Close to 16-18 hour days when an Airwing is in town or the SWTI course is going on. Even when those two things aren't happening, he travels a lot and still puts in a lot of hours. He lives in Fernley so his wife can commute to Reno. That drive also adds to his working hours. The flying and outdoor activities are great though.
 

HH-60H

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Any one of the three will work just nicely. Don't get caught up in the our frustration with some of the folks there. All three jobs will be looked upon favorably by the boards.

Your husband will probably have more time at home if he is at the weapons school in SD. If he plans on putting in an application for TPS, I would opt for the program that will get you a masters on the way. This will save you from worrying about it later.

Concur with the career advice... All 3 jobs will be good for a career, assuming, of course, sustained superior performance.

Like I mentioned earlier 1 of the 2 guys I know well who was at NSAWC has screened for command, and the other is well on his way.

In aviation jobs can be enhancing in 3 main ways:

1. Is it a community "recommended" or "preferred" job? They differ slightly from community to community, even amongst the helo communities. For instance, I would guess that HSL would rank WTU/WWS slightly above NSAWC, and HS vice versa. Again that is a guess, but I would be surprised. Most/all of the the "recommended" jobs are ones that keep you in the cockpit of your primary T/M/S (station SAR doesn't). FRS, WTU/WWS, TPS (exception to the T/M/S consideration), etc. fit that bill.

2. Is it a "hard" job? If you can't stay in the cockpit in a "preferred" job then did you take a professionally educating job that requires lots of work? Pentagon tours, taking the IA, other staff jobs (can anyone think of anything else?) BOLTC instructor and ROTC do not make the cut.

3. The last consideration is not one written down or talked about, because it is a more practical consideration for career enhancement. Did you stay in a job that kept you connected to your community? While you are in those jobs, you meet current CO/XO's, future CO/XO's, Commodores, the people who set you up behind the scenes. Imagine being the FRS IP for a DH coming off a disassociated tour. You get to know him/her, impress him, and when he is a CO he makes sure there is a DH spot open in his squadron for you. Then you are the CO's "boy," and that can only be good. Jobs that meet this practical criteria are the FRS, WWS/WTU, and NSAWC, maybe some non-flying Wing jobs, but I am not sure. IMO, TPS does not really meet this criteria.

Soooo, IMO the three jobs you listed would be strong choices with NSAWC and WWS having a slight edge over TPS. Although the chance the knock out a master's could make up for it. However, I wouldn't worry too much about working the system with such small advantages. Take the job that he would like and is good for the family.

All that being said, sustained superior performance almost always trumps some middle of the pack runner in a community "preferred" job.

As a side note, this advice is only for someone with their mind set on command and higher. If your husband is content with finishing in his community as a DH and retiring as a Commander (which is completely respectable in its own right), then there are a million other choices.
 

A4sForever

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Fallon/shmallon .... Fallon's good for three things:

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... just be thankful you're not stationed here (not too far down the road) :):

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