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National OPO

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All - if you are just starting the application process for an OCS progam, NRC is expanding the requirement for just about all OCS applicants to have to get a physically qualified (PQ) determination made even before the applicant can be submitted - starting with applications submitted 01Sep14 and beyond. So OCS applicants should fully expect for their recruiter to schedule them for a physical exam through MEPS as the very first step in the application process - even before your recruiter might start compiling your application for eventual submission. This expanded requirement for a PQ determination to be obtained prior to an OCS application being submitted to NRC for official consideration is being done for just about ALL of the OCS programs - SWO, Subs, SEAL/EOD, Pilot/NFO, IDC (Intel, IP, IW), & Supply. Then once a PQ determination is obtained, and assuming that an applicant is determined to be physically qualified for commissioning (against established DoD requirements), then a recruiter will complete and submit an applications for official consideration for an OCS program.
 
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National OPO

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National OPO said:
All - if you are just starting the application process for an OCS progam, NRC is expanding the requirement for just about all OCS applicants to have to get a physically qualified (PQ) determination made even before the applicant can be submitted - starting with applications submitted 01Sep14 and beyond. So OCS applicants should fully expect for their recruiter to schedule them for a physical exam through MEPS as the very first step in the application process - even before your recruiter might start compiling your application for eventual submission. This expanded requirement for a PQ determination to be obtained prior to an OCS application being submitted to NRC for official consideration is being done for just about ALL of the OCS programs - SWO, Subs, SEAL/EOD, Pilot/NFO, IDC (Intel, IP, IW), & Supply. Then once a PQ determination is obtained, and assuming that an applicant is determined to be physically qualified for commissioning (against established DoD requirements), then a recruiter will complete and submit an applications for official consideration for an OCS program.
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One point of clarification - this exanded PQ requirement affects NRD applicants only. Fleet Sailors applying for an OCS designator should still follow the application requirements and process outlined within OPNAVINST 1420.1B. The Fleet Sailor OCS application process and requirements have not been changed by the above note. Fleet applicants are still expected to submit their physical exam documents along with their application to faciliate PQ determinations once professionally recommended.
 
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exNavyOffRec

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National OPO said:
All - if you are just starting the application process for an OCS progam, NRC is expanding the requirement for just about all OCS applicants to have to get a physically qualified (PQ) determination made even before the applicant can be submitted - starting with applications submitted 01Sep14 and beyond. So OCS applicants should fully expect for their recruiter to schedule them for a physical exam through MEPS as the very first step in the application process - even before your recruiter might start compiling your application for eventual submission. This expanded requirement for a PQ determination to be obtained prior to an OCS application being submitted to NRC for official consideration is being done for just about ALL of the OCS programs - SWO, Subs, SEAL/EOD, Pilot/NFO, IDC (Intel, IP, IW), & Supply. Then once a PQ determination is obtained, and assuming that an applicant is determined to be physically qualified for commissioning (against established DoD requirements), then a recruiter will complete and submit an applications for official consideration for an OCS program.
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Not surprising this is happening.

A smart recruiter will phrase it like this "To get the process started we need to get you a physical at MEPS, while we wait for your appointment here are a list of documents I need you to provide, and start working on your motivational statement.
 
FormerRecruitingGuru

FormerRecruitingGuru

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National OPO said:
One point of clarification - this exanded PQ requirement affects NRD applicants only. Fleet Sailors applying for an OCS designator should still follow the application requirements and process outlined within OPNAVINST 1420.1B. The Fleet Sailor OCS application process and requirements have not been changed by the above note. Fleet applicants are still expected to submit their physical exam documents along with their application to faciliate PQ determinations once professionally recommended.
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Sir, is this the new NOPO or outgoing NOPO?
 
FormerRecruitingGuru

FormerRecruitingGuru

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NavyOffRec said:
Not surprising this is happening.

A smart recruiter will phrase it like this "To get the process started we need to get you a physical at MEPS, while we wait for your appointment here are a list of documents I need you to provide, and start working on your motivational statement.
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We still have recruiters here who are adamant about testing first and then moving to the rest of the process later. I've always been a fan of getting the meddocs/MEPS physical first and then everything later. Even if an applicant fails the ASTB you have an N3M letter to hold onto while the applicant studies again.
 
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National OPO

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RUFiO181 said:
Sir, is this the new NOPO or outgoing NOPO?
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Outgoing NOPO. The new NOPO would have to log in with a different account name other than "National OPO". And unsure if he or someone else from the NRC staff is going to make the effort to make frequent entries onto this page.
 
Lancerr1

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You should groom the incoming NOPO so that he keeps us all up to speed. Your words breathe life blood into this forum.
 
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RUFiO181 said:
We still have recruiters here who are adamant about testing first and then moving to the rest of the process later. I've always been a fan of getting the meddocs/MEPS physical first and then everything later. Even if an applicant fails the ASTB you have an N3M letter to hold onto while the applicant studies again.
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What is more likely to occur failure of the ASTB or failure to PQ? What is more costly to the Navy, administering an exam or running an applicant through MEPS? Back in the day it was test first. But then we didn't do the two stage process you have now. Everything went in all at once. Med, SF86, physical readiness, and complete app package. We did actually have a Corpsman on staff until the late 80s or so. He would conduct an initial screen including color vision and health history.
 
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exNavyOffRec

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What is more likely to occur failure of the ASTB or failure to PQ? What is more costly to the Navy, administering an exam or running an applicant through MEPS? Back in the day it was test first. But then we didn't do the two stage process you have now. Everything went in all at once. Med, SF86, physical readiness, and complete app package. We did actually have a Corpsman on staff until the late 80s or so. He would conduct an initial screen including color vision and health history.
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I can count on one hand the number of people that tested at my NRD that failed to meet the minimum 5's per the PA in over 3 years, so getting PQ was the real issue for us.

I will add there were some scores I may have missed when I was out of the office.
 
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