Isn’t that what they call “coach class” at the show?
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FSDOs used to give P-8 guys 737 type ratings when it first came out and VP-30 pushed the FAA to put a stop to it… couldn’t get on at SWA without a 737 type rating back then and guys transition timing were allowing them to get out at the end of their shore tour there for a while...
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*pushes glasses up nose* Ackchuallay….
The myriad -135 variants aren’t based off the 707. They are based off the prototype -80 that Tex Johnston rolled over Lake Washington that was later developed into the 720. The -135s are a bit smaller in both wingspan and length than the 707-300 based military aircraft (E-3, E-6, E-8).
Fun fact: the 16 E-6s produced were the last 707s ever made.
My type rating says 707/720, so you are right that the type rating is the same, but they are technically different aircraft.
So if the KC-135 =\= the 707, and the P-8 =\= the 737, but the -135 warrants a type, then the P-8 should as well.
It’s more of a novelty these days anyhow. Types are nothing more than a flex or “nice to have” but I’m still salty that for whatever reason, FAA or big navy said No. 😔
Agreed, but the -135 does have a civilian type equivalent in the 720. I guess the P-8 doesn’t because of the cobbling together of different major components.
I’ll go ahead and blame big-navy fuckery.
I’ll go ahead and blame big-navy fuckery.
They just can’t stand to see anyone have a good time, can they?
Ackchyually...
The 720 is not based off the 'Dash 80', it is based off the 707 and was a lighter and shorter version of it. The KC-135 and 707 are separate developments of the Dash 80, with the 135 being wider (144 inches) than the Dash 80 (132 inches) and the 707 even wider (148 inches) to accommodate 6 abreast seating as requested by the airlines.
Ahem....
The last 707 production line number was....drumroll....an RAF E-3D AWACS (with production line number of 1011 or 1012, I found conflicting info online, while the last E-6 made is 1008 from what I can find). The E-3D, French E-3F and E-6 were all made at the same time and were the last 3 707 types to be made.
Back in the 80s a NFO buddy got orders to be a flag aide. He was sent to whatever served as the C-12 RAG and then flew as co-pilot on the Admiral's trips. Because he was a NFO they were technically flying single pilot but for weather mins and such the Navy considered it mulipilot, just like the S-3 and EA-6B.
Ok, you win. You’re a bigger airplane nerd than me.Ackchyually...
The 720 is not based off the 'Dash 80', it is based off the 707 and was a lighter and shorter version of it. The KC-135 and 707 are separate developments of the Dash 80, with the 135 being wider (144 inches) than the Dash 80 (132 inches) and the 707 even wider (148 inches) to accommodate 6 abreast seating as requested by the airlines.
Ahem....
The last 707 production line number was....drumroll....an RAF E-3D AWACS (with production line number of 1011 or 1012, I found conflicting info online, while the last E-6 made is 1008 from what I can find). The E-3D, French E-3F and E-6 were all made at the same time and were the last 3 707 types to be made.
