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Navy intercepts Russian bombers

Mumbles

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Mr A4s..... just out of curiousity, how did you Intruder drivers determine who was going to be pulling KA-6 detail vice sitting sucap alert on the flight sked on a day to day basis. Unlike the Rhino, wasn't the KA-6 totally dedicated to tanking and had totally different innards??
 

A4sForever

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Mr A4s..... just out of curiousity, how did you Intruder drivers determine who was going to be pulling KA-6 detail vice sitting sucap alert on the flight sked on a day to day basis. Unlike the Rhino, wasn't the KA-6 totally dedicated to tanking and had totally different innards??
Not sure what you mean by "sucap" ... like "surface CAP"??? With the attack birds standing alert for surface targets vice the KA's standing alert for tanking backup for the F-4's ... ???

We didn't do that -- anything resembling a surface CAP -- when BEARs were comin' -- just tankers and the occasional "attack-fighter" (more frequent than not as the cruise progressed and F-4 availability became more problematical) when there were not enough dedicated fighters (it happened) ... as the CAGs (who were A-6, A-7, and F-4 guys) would strap some 'Winders on the A-6's and A-7's for backup. They would then usually move from Alert-30 into an Alert-15 status when the original Alert-5/15 fighters and tankers launched.

The "duty" crews rotated going westbound amongst the more experienced guys ... deeper into the cruise, anyone was theoretically "eligible", although it seemed the more experienced guys (reliable guys?) still sat alert and were the only ones who launched.

RHIP??? :)

Hope that adresses your question.
 

Old R.O.

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A couple of stories about Bear overflights in the mid-'70s.
Coming home from the Philippines (Subic Bay), we didn't have enough natural wind over the deck to safely operate the F-4s (and the engineering plant on the ship was highly suspect... to the point of going dead in the water on the TransPac Eastbound), so the A-7s were loaded up with 'Winders and stood the alert until the weather became more favorable.

We (the fighter aircrews) all stood the alert-5... 24 hours a day... two hours at a time. On the way over (Westbound), the skipper at that time had the mindset that everyone in the squadron had trained hard and he had full confidence in us. (probably a a reason he made it to three-star)
On the way home... different story. We knew hours ahead of time when the Bears were coming. When he found out, the new skipper re-wrote the flight schedule and put the heavies in the go-birds, and he was in the first F-4 off the cat.
Well.... the Bears were intent on finding Enterprise, who was transiting Westbound and a few hundred miles south of us with the first fleet F-14s on board. The Big E went EMCON, and the Russkies were unable to find her. So, they flew a large circle around us, went on a search for Enterprise, then came back and overflew us. By the time they got back, the schedule-rewriting skipper was Bingo and was actually on the ball when they made their overflight. Sometimes justice is done...! We launched another F-4 to do the intercept (along with a Brand-X Phantom).
In the end, all it really told the JOs in the squadron was: "You're good enough to stand the alerts around the clock, but you're not good enough to fly the actual mission."
At this point a spontaneous JOPA sprung up in the squadron, ... but that's another story.
 

Old R.O.

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Oh... one more story.
On that very same flight, Brand-X launched with one of the IOIC 35mm Topcon cameras given to him by the squadron Spy. When they returned they were sure that they had great footage... until they opened the camera up and.... NO FILM!!! Fingers were pointed... much gnashing of teeth in the Brand-X ready room resulted...
 
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