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Navy Shoots Down Satellite

BackOrdered

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Flash said:
It's in the missiles........;) The SM-3 is a very wicked missile, and unlike much of missile defense, it has proven it works so far. But I am with MasterBates on this, if someone can find a way to screw it up.........:D

http://www.mda.mil/mdalink/html/nmdimg.html

http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/systems/sm3.htm

http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/stardsm3.htm
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Interesting reads.

That makes sense. Armaments are king. My father was a FCC on Cruisers, so perhaps memories of identifying his ship returning from a tour have made me biased. Still I have always been a fan of the cruiser and its mission.
 
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MrSaturn

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Flash said:
words..
http://www.mda.mil/mdalink/html/nmdimg.html
more links...
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http://www.mda.mil/mdalink/images/img_2850.jpg

So THATS what that is.... I just kept calling it the "Death Star" while giving directions around the base.
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nittany03 said:
Can't remember where I read this, but apparently, a full on war would result in EVERYONE losing access to orbit for a significant period of time, due to all the debris and crap left after blowing up multiple satellites.
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True, blowing up satellites in orbit sends debris everywhere. Hence why a terminal Satellites is so great. The debris wont scatter around conflicting with orbits. Just burn up coming down. Plus its more like a naturally unstable, less predictable, ill maintained and barely working enemy missile.
 
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That looks suspiciously like the old radar picket derricks they used to have off New England.

TexasTowerNo2GeorgesShoal-2.jpg
 
Air Squire

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They obviously want to blow it into the smallest pieces they can, so it doesn't enter the atmosphere anyways and foreign intel doesn't snipe our technology. Are they concerned that any of the people that are actually up in space will take a lug-nut to the chest whilst they're out fixing something on the space station perhaps??

I know very little about space, but I know that a little bolt could possibly do more damage than a .45 bullet can do here at close range. Didn't we get pissed off at the Chinese for obliterating one of their own sattelites and sending fragments all over into orbit????

The article mentions it...but they just say they'll try and "pick the right time and place", but is there really a good time and place for that sort of thing?? How many satellites are in orbit these days?
 
Flash

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Air Squire said:
They obviously want to blow it into the smallest pieces they can, so it doesn't enter the atmosphere anyways and foreign intel doesn't snipe our technology. Are they concerned that any of the people that are actually up in space will take a lug-nut to the chest whilst they're out fixing something on the space station perhaps??

I know very little about space, but I know that a little bolt could possibly do more damage than a .45 bullet can do here at close range. Didn't we get pissed off at the Chinese for obliterating one of their own sattelites and sending fragments all over into orbit????

The article mentions it...but they just say they'll try and "pick the right time and place", but is there really a good time and place for that sort of thing?? How many satellites are in orbit these days?
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The right time and place would be over a large expanse of ocean where any debris that might survive would not hit anyone. And it also possibly means shooting it down while it is in a lower orbit, since its orbit is decaying, where debirs would not pose as much danger to other spacecraft and would reenter quickly.

The big beef we had with the Chinese is that their satellite was still in orbit along with a lot of other spacecraft when they hit it. That, and we don't like them.
 
raptor10

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Flash said:
And it also possibly means shooting it down while it is in a lower orbit, since its orbit is decaying, where debirs would not pose as much danger to other spacecraft and would reenter quickly.
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Some of the talking heads don't have any faith in the government estimates of how much debirs will be kicked up and believe that the debirs from this shoot could be dangerous to the ISS

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/02/skeptical-about.html
 
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raptor10 said:
Some of the talking heads don't have any faith in the government estimates of how much debirs will be kicked up and believe that the debirs from this shoot could be dangerous to the ISS

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/02/skeptical-about.html
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Cut me some slack, it is Friday and my auto-correct is not on.......:D

Mr Lewis may be a very smart guy but NRO and NASA have plenty of rocket scientists figuring this stuff out, I will put my faith in them......though it might be misplaced, since the NRO are the ones who launched the giant paperweight in the first place. :eek:
 
raptor10

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Flash said:
Cut me some slack, it is Friday and my auto-correct is not on.......:D

Mr Lewis may be a very smart guy but NRO and NASA have plenty of rocket scientists figuring this stuff out, I will put my faith in them......though it might be misplaced, since the NRO are the ones who launched the giant paperweight in the first place. :eek:
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Does that make you an auto-correct cripple? :D

Stratfor is saying that we would not be planning this shoot unless the Pentagon was seriously concerned about the hydrazine falling into a densely populated area. How does that track out there?
 
Flash

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raptor10 said:
Does that make you an auto-correct cripple? :D

Stratfor is saying that we would not be planning this shoot unless the Pentagon was seriously concerned about the hydrazine falling into a densely populated area. How does that track out there?
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Yeah, what is your point? ;)

I know nothing.....
 
HeyJoe

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raptor10 said:
Does that make you an auto-correct cripple? :D

Stratfor is saying that we would not be planning this shoot unless the Pentagon was seriously concerned about the hydrazine falling into a densely populated area. How does that track out there?
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The F-16 uses partially diluted hydrazine for its EPU. It's considered a hazard in crash sites along with burning carbon fiber. It's pretty nasty stuff whether you inhale or simply have exposure to it on your skin.

Appears the Vice Chairman gave a briefing and mentioned that they were indeed concerned.
 
raptor10

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heyjoe said:
The F-16 uses partially diluted hydrazine for its EPU. It's considered a hazard in crash sites along with burning carbon fiber. It's pretty nasty stuff whether you inhale or simply have exposure to it on your skin.

Appears the Vice Chairman gave a briefing and mentioned that they were indeed concerned.
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I guess when the eggheads were putting out these reports someone must have forgotten to carry the one...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/01/29/2148731.htm
http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/story.html?id=af819b1e-20e8-4cda-b0df-0f4ca3687c53
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22857051/
 
ea6bflyr

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Too bad we still don't have these! That would make an easy job of the task at hand.

-ea6bflyr ;)
 
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