Uh...did the Soviet/Russian Navy put fixed wing aviators on CRUDES and frigates to run helo detachments?
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Navy VS Air Force Helicopter Pilot
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Uh...did the Soviet/Russian Navy put fixed wing aviators on CRUDES and frigates to run helo detachments?
Do you sit around at night drinking vodka and trying to come up with the next trivial stupid question?
Max the Mad Russian
Hands off Ukraine! Feet too
Air Det DH here is DDG/FFG XO. And his officer are all AMDOs. Helo Det doesn't contain any maintenance officer, just pilots and navs. That is why I'm asking
To be fair, don’t we all sit around at night drinking and then argue on the internet?
Just so we can end this early...
The "Air Boss" on a CRUDES, which I always thought was a dumb name, is not attached to the ship. He, along with the entire "aviation department" (read: Air DET), are TAD to the ship while underway. Otherwise they're part of a helicopter squadron that's completely independent of the ship.
I swear we did this before...
The "Air Boss" on a CRUDES, which I always thought was a dumb name, is not attached to the ship. He, along with the entire "aviation department" (read: Air DET), are TAD to the ship while underway. Otherwise they're part of a helicopter squadron that's completely independent of the ship.
I swear we did this before...
I'm curious to where the Navy does their High Altitude/Elevation helicopter training.
I know the Army has a "power school" in Eagle, CO. However, I also know that a lot of that training is Unit Specific. So for example, the Nevada Army National Guard fly those conditions every time they fly so they don't really need to go to power school.
I'm wondering where the Navy SAR like Fallon and Whidbey Island pilots that fly up in the mountains get their training from.
I know the Army has a "power school" in Eagle, CO. However, I also know that a lot of that training is Unit Specific. So for example, the Nevada Army National Guard fly those conditions every time they fly so they don't really need to go to power school.
I'm wondering where the Navy SAR like Fallon and Whidbey Island pilots that fly up in the mountains get their training from.
NAWDC N8 runs the mountain flying school. Station SAR and a few fleet crews go through. I’ve heard of those instructors or station SAR pilots getting opportunities to go to HAATS or a course in Canada (Topflight?)—not sure how often that occurred.
The Reserves used to have an annual quota to go there, but for some reason it dried up right before I came back from a deployment. Not that I'm still bitter or anything.
Yeah, have a former CO who did that Army course and if I recall, included flying in Western Canada. Fuzzy memory, but I think his selection was largely luck of the draw and good timing within his squadron.
The four mountain flying schools I know of and have had friends attend:
USN - NAWDC N8 out of Fallon
USA - HAATS, Colorado National Guard
Canadian Mountain flying school (I don't remember if it was their military or civilian)
Italian Mountain flying school - If my memory is correct it was their SAR unit who also hosts the school.
For the Navy all (or most) of the station SAR pilots go through it as well as all of the SWTI's. In addition each HSC squadron can send a couple of pilots each year. The USAF sends people to HAATS on the regular and occasionally through the Canadian or Italian course.
USN - NAWDC N8 out of Fallon
USA - HAATS, Colorado National Guard
Canadian Mountain flying school (I don't remember if it was their military or civilian)
Italian Mountain flying school - If my memory is correct it was their SAR unit who also hosts the school.
For the Navy all (or most) of the station SAR pilots go through it as well as all of the SWTI's. In addition each HSC squadron can send a couple of pilots each year. The USAF sends people to HAATS on the regular and occasionally through the Canadian or Italian course.
I HIGHLY recommend HAATS. If for no other reason than it's beautiful. Oh and a trip to the Coors brewery is kind of mandatory, sort of like going to the Yuengling brewery if you go to EAATS. My favorite landing was the 11,000' saddle shown in the last three pictures. Just enough room for your rotors on either side and just enough length MLG to TLG.
