Dunno about Corpus, but that's not the case in Jax. I ride my bike to work almost daily and all I wear is my flight suit, never wear a vest and never have had an issue.
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Navy Working Uniform Now Authorized Off Base
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Dunno about Corpus, but that's not the case in Jax. I ride my bike to work almost daily and all I wear is my flight suit, never wear a vest and never have had an issue.
I just finished the BRC on Tuesday (on NASCC) and the instructor said that reflective vests are only required at night while onboard NASK, NASCC, and NSI.
Well, that would be a change from last December when I got schwacked with a ticket on the way to lunch and told by base police that it was base policy.
How many of those until they take your birthday away?
ebcarlson23
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So are NWU's the "uniform of the day" onboard ship for non-aviation officers? Are tan service uniforms ever seen in a "regular" day on ship, i.e. outside of ceremonial functions? And if so, what is the reaction of sailors and officers in the fleet to this?
No short sleeved uniform aboard ship(but you can roll your NWU sleeves), so no black & tans. NWUs are the standard uniform.
Brett
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And we just got a "local uniform regs" email from some regional high mucketymuck that NWUs are now unauthorized off base for anything that was not legal in a flight suit already.
So you can't wear Working Khaki, or whatever we called Khaki with no ribbons? Only engineering shoes wore long sleeves back in the day (pac fleet).
Well inport you can... usually. And I guess like everything else that probably depends on the ship. But I didn't see it very often when I was doing the boat thing in Norfolk a few years ago- the reality is most of the shoes wear civvies driving between home and the ship and change in and out of their uniform every day on the ship. Every day.
When the new blue digi cammies first came out even getting out of your car to put gas in the tank was verboten. Dunno if sailors will start routinely wearing them from home now with the new relaxed rules, who knows. Except for all the buttons that fall off in the laundry and the camouflage pattern that is vaguely reminiscent of the Iraqi Police... it's a great uniform!
For the long sleeves on ship rule, I suppose sometime in the 1980s or 1990s somebody must have decided that it was important in case the ship caught on fire while underway. I've never bothered to find out the real story though (shrug).
This has pretty much been the norm for at least a year now (or however long ago the instruction got updated).
That's good to hear- better QOL. (seriously)
And the daily traffic on I-64 can be fun if you try to count the NWUs in other cars around you
(OK, not seriously with this second thing)I thought those rules, although learned in WWII and later forgotten, were solidified after the Sammy B. and Stark attacks. In those cases guys were wearing CNTs and Corframs (hey CMC, check out my creases!) and had them melt to them. After that, working khakis and coveralls for the same reason as the flightsuit.
Working Khakis are no more. They went away in Dec. Replaced by the NWU's.
I actually almost fell off my chair laughing at that for some reason. You mean all of the sudden someone has realized that it might not give the best image of the Navy if the uniform everyone wears in front of the public is the most absurd looking and laughed at uniform around. Awesome.
Maybe someone will finally realize that one of the best things the Navy could do for PR is to allow flight suits out in town. Even when I just stop for a quick fill up I have people bringing their kids over to say hello.
On that note in my fleet squadron, when we pulled into their homeport NAS Yoko after a CQ det we had the Big XO tell us that we should change into civvies before we went to the NEX on base because flight suits "weren't a good idea." Luckily our squadron leadership had other thoughts. "If it's allowed in the regulations put forth by big Navy, who is this guy to say they are wrong."
All this legal and proper uniform stuff has always been a crock. It all goes back to making sure the SWOs don't feel slighted. The regs have always considered flight suits working/organizational uniforms. So if we can wear bags off base like the USAF then SWOs and all their snipes could wear their coveralls and whatever sweaty greasy clothing off base because they are in the same category. That could be changed by modifying the regs. I had been told years ago that if we went the route of the USAF then we would have Navy wide standardized flight suits, not the unit or even personal choices we used to have. Lately it seems like flight suits are pretty standardized, much like AF. So what is the hold up now I wonder. I don't know the history of all the uniform restrictions in the Navy. The Army's "working uniform" is ACUs, or whatever they are called now, and the USAF includes flight suits in that category, yet they wear them everywhere. Our equivalent is the NDU, which we got in part to be like the other branches, yet we can't wear them like the other services (well I wouldn't, just making a point). I saw a Navy O-5 in the old style desert cammie in the airport the other day. I had to ask him about the rules on traveling in cammies as I hadn't seen it. He said it has been legal to do so if going to or from theater. So it is ok to wear a uniform in the airports and on planes as a highly visible representative of the Navy but not wear that same uniform to Walmart? Make them all legal like the Army and USAF. The real upside is the ridicule from the public on seeing the NDUs everywhere would get them shit canned right away.