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jt71582

How do you fly a Clipper?
pilot
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Does the real test have any questions with 2 correct answers? I just took a test from one of my no-name prep books and it had 2 images that were correct for a spatial problem. Thanks!

I remember this occurrance and was worried about it as well. The ASTB only has 1 correct answer. Each of the available choices in the Spatial section were distinctly different. Happy testing! :D
 

nugget61

Active Member
pilot
Thanks for the gouge yall. Another question - the Marine gauge doesn't have a time limit for any of the sections (and they're different sizes/material than my books) - any suggestions?
 
There is a single correct answer for each of the questions on the actual test. I used the Barron's Military Flight Aptitude book and the spatial aspect had quite a few errors. Identical answers, the back of the book saying the correct answer for a diving plane was a picture of one climbing, etc.

Yep, I noticed this too, I knew I was right and the book was wrong.
 

grant_davis

New Member
I cant get the columbia link to work. I have seen that link in several post and everyone seems to agree that it helps but I cant seem to get it to work. I tried surfing around the website but no luck. If anyone could email me I would appreciate it. I take the ASTB on 9-11 so I am just trying to get all of the help I can get.
 

BullGator

Active Member
I cant get the columbia link to work. I have seen that link in several post and everyone seems to agree that it helps but I cant seem to get it to work. I tried surfing around the website but no luck. If anyone could email me I would appreciate it. I take the ASTB on 9-11 so I am just trying to get all of the help I can get.
The columbia link hasn't been active for a long time. It is the same gouge that you can get at the ASTB section of the www.marinegouge.com. It is also posted throughout the AW ASTB threads.

From memory, it includes the 11 page (FA18 on cover) mechanical info gouge, the 27 page marine questions gouge (covers all but SAT), and the 10 page SAT gouge. You should have these already, if not let me know and I will post them. You can PM me too.


I also recommend the free pdf downloads by Arco:

ArcoMilitaryFlightAptitudeTestsED6:
http://nrotc.unm.edu/files/MilitaryFlight.pdf

Arco OCS Book (best parts are math and mechanical):
http://www.petersons.com/pdf/free/OfficerCandidate.pdf

GL, and let us know how it goes.
 

grant_davis

New Member
Thank you so much for all the help. This site has been a lifesaver. I have a bunch of books and about 20 pdf files saved to my computer so hopefully I have everything I need. Right now I’m scheduled to take the test on 9-11 but I many need more time. I haven’t talked to my recruiter except for the day I met him, but he seemed to think that 5 weeks was enough. I’m starting to think it’s going to take a bit longer but Ill keep yall updated.
 

BullGator

Active Member
Thank you so much for all the help. This site has been a lifesaver. I have a bunch of books and about 20 pdf files saved to my computer so hopefully I have everything I need. Right now I’m scheduled to take the test on 9-11 but I many need more time. I haven’t talked to my recruiter except for the day I met him, but he seemed to think that 5 weeks was enough. I’m starting to think it’s going to take a bit longer but Ill keep yall updated.
5 weeks should be enough (depending if you have a full time job, and so on), but only if you are comfortible. I took about the same amount of time (also had A LOT of different matterial to study from) and in the 4th week I was thinking man I could study much more, but on the 5th week I just wanted to take already (a few days early). It's weird but that was my feeling. I understood all the pre-information of PFT (aviation/nautical and mechanical for sure) that was on the ASTB, but there are extra/extranneous questions that you can't really study for (stuff that only being an engineer major might teach you: in mechanical especially).

Once you feel ready you should take it is my take. Also in my opinion, if you aren't ready tell your OR at least a few days (more the better) ahead of time; just as a curtousy.
 

grant_davis

New Member
Ill be sure to let him know at least a week or so in advance. I am a full time student so I'm pretty good at cramming. One more question, am I aloud to bring a calculator for the math section and some sort of stopwatch or something so that I can pace my self? I am sorry if the questions I have been asking are posted a million times already on the site, I’m just trying to study and I know if I start digging around in post and threads Ill end up spending the afternoon clicking around (very interesting site)… I appreciate all of your help and quick replies.
 

BullGator

Active Member
NO calculator. No cell phone either...
Stop watch is fine, as long as it isn't one of those old lame ones with a calculator on it :) . The computer version has a clock on the bottom right, FYI.
 

grant_davis

New Member
haha bummer... I'm guessing you at least get a scratch pad but not really enough time to do a whole lot of work on the side.. Hmm.. I have a long way to go.
 

BullGator

Active Member
haha bummer... I'm guessing you at least get a scratch pad but not really enough time to do a whole lot of work on the side.. Hmm.. I have a long way to go.
They give you the strach paper by the way (I brought my own, but used theirs).

You will have enough time. There aren't nearly as many word problems as Barron's or Arco. They are mostly conceptual. Just spend time (about) everyday working through problems so you can handel many numbers with common knowledge. That helps so you don't spend time writing the easy ones down and gives you Extra time for the harder ones. In my opinion, for test 5, the math was a joke. I am very good at math, but haven't taken a math class since 2003 (Calculus 2 at UF). Just practice if it is a weak area, I guess. I practiced because it's been 5 years since I used math "regularly" and way longer since I've done simple math (took algebra 2 honors in 9th grade, and geometry in 10th. After that my courses were far beyond the ASTB scope).
 

grant_davis

New Member
Haha yea I'm in the same boat. I did well in math in high school but I am a marketing student so I haven't done this kind of stuff in a long time. It shouldn’t be too much of a problem though just a little practice. The spatial stuff doesn't seem to be too hard the block flipping is a little different but I suppose that is just practice. The only thing I think I am going to struggle with no matter how much I practice is the section that deals with basic flight ant military knowledge. There seems to be an unlimited amount of things I could put on my note cards (colors for runway lights, different ranks insignias, types of boats) I have no clue what to do about all of that.
 

BullGator

Active Member
Haha yea I'm in the same boat. I did well in math in high school but I am a marketing student so I haven't done this kind of stuff in a long time. It shouldn’t be too much of a problem though just a little practice. The spatial stuff doesn't seem to be too hard the block flipping is a little different but I suppose that is just practice. The only thing I think I am going to struggle with no matter how much I practice is the section that deals with basic flight ant military knowledge. There seems to be an unlimited amount of things I could put on my note cards (colors for runway lights, different ranks insignias, types of boats) I have no clue what to do about all of that.
Block rotating/flipping is for Air Force AFOQT, don't worry about that unless you are taking both exams.
 

BullGator

Active Member
Oh yeah, I didn't use flash cards by the way. There is far too much to learn for one thing. It has been described as "a mile wide and an inch deep" of ANT info. What I did was read it over and over again. Before you do anything, imprint the colors and sides of a ship that starboard and port have. One easy way to remember, port, red and left all have less letters than starboard, green and right (respectively, also port wine is red...if that may help). For the rest of the info, just read it over and over again, and know your flight basics by heart. At least that what I did. I was re-reading that stuff a lot.
 

grant_davis

New Member
Thanks for all of the advise it is helping a-lot. So the mechanical section is pulleys and inclines etc. and the spatial is just the view from the cockpit stuff?
 
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