I am just finishing up my sophomore year in college. I have around a 3.4 GPA, (have since I graduated high school) and I play college hockey at one of the better division 3 programs in the country. I am just now starting to look into the BDCP program. I wanted to do NROTC here at school but my school - (Norwich University) - only offers the program to its corps of cadets students, and I came here as a civilian, so I was looking into other routes to becoming an officer upon graduation. I have made a few phone calls but I can't seem to get ahold of an Officer recruiter near me... any suggestions?? (The enlisted recruiter whom I spoke to didn't know about the program). I guess I am really just looking for any information related to the program, whom I should get into contact with/and or any websites containing any info?? Thanks for the help!
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New to BDCP - Trying to find some Info
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You don't have to be a cadet (midshipman to be proper) in order to join NROTC. That's putting the cart before the horse as we were all civilians at some point. You apply and become a midshipman through the college program. Where did you hear this?
WishICouldFly
UO Future Pork Chop
As far as recruiters go, the enlisted recruiters and Officer recruiters operate out of completely different boats, so to speak, so usually the enlisted recruiters won't know about the BDCP, and they'll probably tell you to enlist and apply for OCS afterwards.
Try the official Navy website, I'm sure they have an up-to-date list of Officer recruiters.
And for NROTC...well, the first two years of ROTC should be open to anyone, or at least that's how the Army does it here. It doesn't make any sense to have them be so restrictive, since the ROTC presence on campus IS to recruit and attract potential military officers.
Try the official Navy website, I'm sure they have an up-to-date list of Officer recruiters.
And for NROTC...well, the first two years of ROTC should be open to anyone, or at least that's how the Army does it here. It doesn't make any sense to have them be so restrictive, since the ROTC presence on campus IS to recruit and attract potential military officers.
Well I've never heard of any ROTC turning away applicants, but if you say that's what the unit told you, I must to take your word for it. Well at least you are on the right forum. BDCP is a great program.
MasterBates
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Greatest Program..
Only way it could be better would be with FREE Hookers & Blow vice the subsidized you get now.
Only way it could be better would be with FREE Hookers & Blow vice the subsidized you get now.
tiz: Norwich is a university with a Corps of Cadets (military school students) and a separate group of regular college students (civilians) who attend Norwich as if it's a civilian college. The OP is a member of the latter group and at Norwich, ROTC is only open to the Corps of Cadets. This may be what's confusing you.
You are correct sir. Thanks for clarifying that for me
It's easy for me to say it's the great thing I've ever managed to get into, but I'll play devil's advocate and list my gripes instead. Two things:
Unlike NROTC, BDCP is not something you can be even passively proud in the open since you don't get a uniform and when people ask about it, they have no idea what the hell you are talking about (especially at the PSD). No matter what I say they mix it up and think I'm in the unit. I remember once I was sitting at lunch with a bunch of other mids when I was still in the pipeline. I told them about BDCP as accurately as I could and my mid friend goes, "Hey guys! tiz is joining the unit with us next semester!":icon_what I don't even think I got through to them at all. Either that, or they swear my recruiter is a con-man and I merely enlisted my life away with no promise of OCS. Eventually, I just gave up and I tell people I'm like a NROTC OC who doesn't have to do anything :watching3 I find there reactions more entertaining than annoying now.
Second, BDCP is not something you can improve or excel at in and of itself until you actually go to OCS. If you aren't the compulsive achiever type, this isn't a concern. But if you are, I call it the "goal vacuum." I managed to just about fill it with a club presidency, a new girl friend, and more credit hours with a higher GPA, but none of those things have anything to do with the Navy or becoming sailor. And the PFTs are something I'd do without BDCP. I guess what I'm getting at is that BDCP is about as far away from being in the navy you can be while actually being in the navy and if you are motivated and just feel you have to prove something, NROTC is more for you. Often, I find myself studying harder and pushing myself further during my PTs to prove to the NROTC guys I'm just as dedicated as they are. The environment that NROTC mids and OCs have is one I feel I would have really stood out in (I loved NJROTC in high school) and at times I feel misplaced on campus by not being a member. Yup, if I could do things differently, I'd definitely would have tried harder to shoot for NROTC *Sigh* Yeah, we BDCP types have it pretty bad.
*Goes off to bathe in a hot tub of BDCP money*
Thisguy
Pain-in-the-dick
Maybe you need to stop hanging out with retards. Ditch 'em now before they start to drag you down.
WishICouldFly
UO Future Pork Chop
Just hope they don't commission before you, because then you might just end up saluting them one day.
FormerRecruitingGuru
Making Recruiting Great Again
Are there any good parties up there in Norwich?
Parties at Norwich?? haha the school would have you believe there are no such thing here but there are a couple a year worth going to. none worth really bragging about but you could have some fun. Norwich is not a "regular" college however, (regardless of the corps of cadets and civilians on one campus), and even some of my buddys at the usna who have been up here for some visits say they can't believe that anyone would go here. Kind of an elderly little town and the school tends to be out to get their students, (we have around a 50% retention rate up here), but an education is an education and if you don't absolutely need a social scene you could come here and get a good degree. Although if you're a guy you might need to find your girlfriend somewhere else as the ratio is somewhere around 17 to 1 here guys to girls.
haha .... i've asked myself that a lot. Thought about transfering last year but I don't have the money (transfers usually have trouble with financial aid) .. so like everyone else here on weekends i take roadtrips to "real" colleges to have some fun... But i guess ultimately I came here to play hockey and get a degree. I'm working on the degree part and our team is one of the best in the country ... although its getting kind of annoying to be one of the best and not the best, but hopefully we'll fix that next year.