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NFO to ANG CSO

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@Waveoff I also wouldn’t completely rule pilot out either. From what I saw, some units had age cutoffs out to 37. I’ll defer to the guard guys on here, but my impression is that the bigger issues are rank/time in service.
 
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So I’ve confirmed the following ANG units still have CSO opportunities and have hired recently. I didn’t dig into all of the C-130H units because I wasn’t sure how long they’d be around/the mission set didn’t interest me. Additional caveat that there are likely other AF Reserve units as well, but I didn’t get that far yet.

OA-1Ks (two seat light attack): 185th SOS/137th SOW, OK ANG, Will Rogers Airport, OKC. Expecting to transition from their current aircraft (MC-12s) within the next two years, hiring CSOs now for the new plane. Hiring via Mil Recruiter. Minimum 3 year commitment. Expect rotational deployments to Africa (most likely)/high OPTEMPO. Deploying as a squadron but in a mini-det construct.

MC-130s (special ops): 193rd SOS/193rd SOW, PA ANG, Harrisburg Airport, Harrisburg, PA: Recently transitioned from the EC-130J. One CSO on the plane (works EW/NAV primarily).

LC-130 (Antarctic Mission): 139th AS/109th AW, NY ANG, Stratton ANG Base, Scotia, NY. Looks like they primarily advertise their positions on the NY ANG website.

HC-130J (CSAR):
102nd RQS/106th Rescue Wing, NY ANG, Gabreski ANG Base, Westhampton Beach (Long Island), NY
130th RQS/129th Rescue Wing, CA ANG, Moffett Airfield, Mountain View, CA
39th RQS/920th Rescue Wing, AF Reserve, Patrick AFB, FL
(all of the above are currently hiring via Mil Recruiter)

C-130H:
192nd AS/152nd AW, NV ANG, Reno Airport, Reno, NV
(currently hiring via Mil Recruiter)
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i actually know a CSO from OKC ANG who is on deployment to Africa rn. She is the one who gave me the idea of CSO after my commitment (she has never been AD Thomson she wasn’t able to give much advice on how feasible it is).
 
Swanee

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cfam said:
@Waveoff I also wouldn’t completely rule pilot out either. From what I saw, some units had age cutoffs out to 37. I’ll defer to the guard guys on here, but my impression is that the bigger issues are rank/time in service.
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Truth. There are waivers, but we only get so many UPT slots per year, and we have to manage our own recruiting and retention. We don't want to send someone to pilot training and then have them retire in a couple years.

It's also getting tougher to bring higher ranks into the Guard. O-3 is the magic spot. O-4 is doable but tougher. O-5 is becoming unicorn territory now.

However, OKC will probably have a lot of turnover, and I surmise that anyone who wants to live in Oklahoma City, fly that airplane, deploy as much as they deploy, and stick around full time could probably write their own ticket. But that's just my opinion.
 
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@Waveoff if you’re open to drones that’s also a possibility. An NFO from my JO tour did a transfer to the AF and is doing drone shit now.
 
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CommodoreMid said:
@Waveoff if you’re open to drones that’s also a possibility. An NFO from my JO tour did a transfer to the AF and is doing drone shit now.
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Just realize that they have to go through flight school over again. The AF doesn't let non-pilots skip any part of any pilot syllabus. Not a bad thing, but not how the Navy and Marine Corps do business.
 
CommodoreMid

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Can’t remember if he went MQ-9 or not, but VP NFO originally. I would be kinda shocked if you knew him given our YG gap.
 
Waveoff

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CommodoreMid said:
Can’t remember if he went MQ-9 or not, but VP NFO originally. I would be kinda shocked if you knew him given our YG gap.
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There's at least one O4 I know from a shared platform specialty program who is going that route. Background in VX before a good deal disassociated.
 
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Not exactly the right place to put this but I couldn’t find better. The NH Air Guard lost their Deputy AG (tanker pilot) to a hit and run accident. From what I know he was a very popular guy.

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NH Brigadier General John Pogorek Killed In Hit And Run Accident

Pogorek was the assistant adjutant general for the NH Air National Guard. The vehicle and driver that hit him in Rochester have been found.
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AIRMMCPORET said:
VAQ-129 SAU reserve unit.
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Valid point, I forgot about them. They’re pretty much a Growler only mafia for NFOs unless a WSO has an in via a 129 instructor tour, and even then I can’t think of a recent one off the top of my head.
 
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MIDNJAC

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Valid point, I forgot about them. They’re pretty much a Growler only mafia for NFOs unless a WSO has an in via a 129 instructor tour, and even then I can’t think a recent one off the top of my head.
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Not sure if there ever has been a WSO, I don't think there has been. Lots of former VFA and VMFA 1315s historically, but NFO wise, all either ECMO or EWO that I know of. Several WSOs have applied though
 
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