NHA FLY-IN

[Renegade One]

When is/was the fly-in? If already happened, how'd it go?

 

[Jim123]

When is/was the fly-in? If already happened, how'd it go?

It's just under a couple weeks away (23-26 Oct) from today.

Pretty much the same schedule as every year--lots of helicopters (including rides for SNAs), various briefs/seminars/panels, golf, 5k runway run, free beer, and a winging--which is to say a pretty good schedule (tried & true).

http://www.navalhelicopterassn.org/

 

[Renegade One]

It's just under a couple weeks away (23-26 Oct) from today.

Pretty much the same schedule as every year--lots of helicopters (including rides for SNAs), various briefs/seminars/panels, golf, 5k runway run, free beer, and a winging--which is to say a pretty good schedule (tried & true).

http://www.navalhelicopterassn.org/

Check...thanks. Hope it's a good 'un.

 

[teabag53]

^^^ That's a decent deal for anybody that can't get near a FSDO but your local FSDO will do that for free...it's their job. If you go the FSDO route take your NATOPS and logbooks for substantiating the type-rating request.

 

[Gatordev]

All HT squadrons and folks flying~in:

I have a guy coming in that can give type ratings in certain helos (if you were qualified in them in the past~ no time limit as to how far back). He gets here mid day 23 Oct and will be staying until the 25th. I think a type rating costs 50 bucks (for however many you qual for). You need your FAA licence and either a copy of an old NATOPS on Instrument check, showing you were qualified in the model. I will be passing more info to my scheduling folks soon, and will have them pass to the other HT's as well. Just thought I would give an "advanced" heads up to all...

If you get your CFI/CFII written done, he will do the paper work and file the stuff for $75 bucks as well.

I'm curious as to which helos. I would guess the H-3 would be the only one. Can you get one in a -53? I've always been told that a H-60 type-rating was never going to happen.

 

[Swanee]

^^^ That's a decent deal for anybody that can't get near a FSDO but your local FSDO will do that for free...it's their job. If you go the FSDO route take your NATOPS and logbooks for substantiating the type-rating request.

There is a sim instructor in Corpus running a similar racket, only he charges $100. I tried to get my Kingsville buddies to just stop by the SA FSDO on the way to Austin- they didn't believe me that the FSDO doesn't charge.

 

[phrogpilot73]

I'm curious as to which helos. I would guess the H-3 would be the only one. Can you get one in a -53? I've always been told that a H-60 type-rating was never going to happen.

I would assume (and it's the only reason that it would be worth it) that the type rating would be in the civilian version. As in, a Phrog would be a type rating in a 107, a 60 type rating would be one in the Sikorsky S-70. Never understood type ratings for civilian helos, most operators know that a Phrog is a 107, and that a 60 is a S-70...

 

[teabag53]

I would assume (and it's the only reason that it would be worth it) that the type rating would be in the civilian version. As in, a Phrog would be a type rating in a 107, a 60 type rating would be one in the Sikorsky S-70. Never understood type ratings for civilian helos, most operators know that a Phrog is a 107, and that a 60 is a S-70...

A CH-53 will yield a SK-65 type rating.

The purpose of the type rating is that you need that and a current 61.58 check (if you're not on the first year of your initial type rating) on your civvie certification IOT operate as PIC in that airframe. Also, the check for a type rating is done to an ATP standard vice commercial standards. That isn't to say you need an ATP to do a type ride...just that the type ride is to ATP standards. In fact, a mando part of the type rating check is demonstrated proficiency with power settling...I can't believe we don't do that in HT's as its easy and I think everybody should see/feel it.

A type rating can be handy to have as a measure of demonstrated proficiency in a particular platform (or weight class...I'll get back to that). If you look through a chief pilot's eyes, operating helicopters in not cheap and they don't want to gamble on a maybe.

Back to weight class, I got my current job in part because I exceeded the minimums for heavy helicopter time and many applicants have a shit-ton more total hours but not the heavy time needed for a heavy type rating (or forest service contract minimums which are more stringent than the FAA). That (and a great deal of luck/timing) equated to me being a good bet to get a SK-64 type ride in my first month of employment. Many folks doing this work do it as copilot a for a few years before getting upgraded.

 

[MasterBates]

Where do they draw the line at 'heavy'.. Heavier than a 60?

 

[Gatordev]

I would assume (and it's the only reason that it would be worth it) that the type rating would be in the civilian version. As in, a Phrog would be a type rating in a 107, a 60 type rating would be one in the Sikorsky S-70. Never understood type ratings for civilian helos, most operators know that a Phrog is a 107, and that a 60 is a S-70...

I get that, but again, I've been told that a S-70 type rating wasn't going to happen. I can't attest to the accuracy of the statement, but one of the reasons was because "everyone" would have one (since "everyone" flies some sort of -60) and it wouldn't really help in breaking anyone out when hiring. Take that for what it's worth.

I forgot about Phrogs. But really, can you blame me? Smiles and stuff...

Where do they draw the line at 'heavy'.. Heavier than a 60?

Teabag (or HAL) can correct me, but generally, a type rating is for something 12.5K or larger.

 

[teabag53]

Weight > 12.5k or requires two pilots.

 

[MasterBates]

So my 60 time is heavy, but not necessarily a type rating.

I wasn't sure if there is some "Heavy" helo rating, like when jets have a "Heavy" suffix.

 

[teabag53]

There isn't a heavy suffix...but being over 12.5k is one of the reasons a type rating is required in rotors.

 

[HokiePilot]

I thought they were no longer issuing them, but apparently they have started again.

The list of all current type ratings is here:
http://registry.faa.gov/TypeRatings/

 

[HokiePilot]

Note you can only get the type rating if you have flown it recently

b) To obtain a type rating, an applicant must be able to show successful completion of a military PIC flight check in the preceding 12 months. Otherwise, the applicant must have a minimum of 10 hours as PIC in that type of aircraft in the past 12 months and present evidence of a previously passed military PIC flight check.