NJ Is Useless

[TheBubba]

Ok, so I'm trying to "procure" my father-in-law's M-1. (Not original issue). He lives in NJ, and I in the Redneck Riviera... And I think its a waste for that rifle to lie up on a shelf and never be fired.

Talked to the county Sheriff here, and was told that in order to gain possession of the rife, I needed to make it legal on the NJ side of the house... FL doesn't care about paperwork.

Which leads to the question: Does anyone here know what I'd have to get don in NJ in order for him to legally give me the rife? I called the NJ State Police and a couple of other state agencies... no joy on getting any info.

 

[WVUBetaHornet]

NJ is Useless

That's a terrific statement...and one that has been true for quite some time.

Anyways, the state police would've been my best guess...but try going higher up in the chain. Attempt to contact the NJ Governor or the local gov't. for the specific region/area of NJ that the rifle is housed in.

 

[TheBubba]

The sad part about that statement is that I'm from NJ... which is on the slide to becoming the DPRNJ...

 

[PropStop]

Go get the gun. Put it in your safe/closet/whatever, live free.

The state doesn't need to know when a gun changes hands in a family (unless you're not allowed to own a firearm or you live in a communist state that requires registration of firearms). My grandfather's firearms were left to me, not written anywhere, but just given to me. The government doesn't need to know how many guns or of what type i (or you) have.

 

[TheBubba]

What the government needs to know and what the want to know are two different things.

The problem is that NJ requires ALL firearms (including BB Guns) to be registered. And the rifle is registered in his name at his address, and he could potentially get in alot of trouble just giving it to me for 2 reasons:

1. I'm not a NJ resident and
2. I cannot legally own a gun in NJ b/c I don't have a NJ license.

 

[WVUBetaHornet]

Personally I'd hate to not be able to receive a gun (especially a Garand, original issue or otherwise) that was left to me or is supposed to be mine..

PropStop's on the right track, just go get the gd gun...it's yours anyways.

Have fun firin that puppy.



EDIT: How long would it take for you to complete and receive the license..?

 

[PropStop]

1. I'm not a NJ resident and
2. I cannot legally own a gun in NJ b/c I don't have a NJ license.

wow, backwards F'ing state! God damn communists.

There should be info online about state gun laws and how to transfer a gun to a non-resident. I expect it'll require an FFL to transfer it to you. Maybe some taxes too. I dunno.

 

[TheBubba]

No info online. Checked that before calling.

 

[insanebikerboy]

What the government needs to know and what the want to know are two different things.

The problem is that NJ requires ALL firearms (including BB Guns) to be registered. And the rifle is registered in his name at his address, and he could potentially get in alot of trouble just giving it to me for 2 reasons:

1. I'm not a NJ resident and
2. I cannot legally own a gun in NJ b/c I don't have a NJ license.

So, why don't you just have him meet you at the state line and he just hand you the gun? Or have an FFL dealer mail it to you?

 

[TheBubba]

Good point... never thought of that.

 

[WVUBetaHornet]

You (or your father in law) would still run the risk of the state gov't. asking him (very low chance of this ever happening, but...) to present all his firearms if he should ever get audited or something...

What happens is an M-1 isn't accounted for b/c you took it without filling out the proper forms/licenses and such?

Probably never going to happen, but it always helps to watch out for the person giving you a gun that you should have a license for..

 

[TheBubba]

Well, I just got my question answered... He'd have to transfer it to a FL dealer, and then I could get it from the dealer... sounds like too much of a hassle to me.

 

[nittany03]

... sounds like too much of a hassle to me.

That's standard procedure when transferring firearms between two states, so if it's that much of a hassle, stand by should you want to acquire more. You have to have an FFL to recieve a firearm shipped between states; it's federal law. Your best bet may be to consult a JAG or legal assistance attorney in P-Cola or NJ. I bet they'd know, or at least know where to find the answer.

 

[wiseguy04]

That's standard procedure when transferring firearms between two states, so if it's that much of a hassle, stand by should you want to acquire more. You have to have an FFL to recieve a firearm shipped between states; it's federal law. Your best bet may be to consult a JAG or legal assistance attorney in P-Cola or NJ. I bet they'd know, or at least know where to find the answer.

One more reason to always transport it in your car with you when you move. As stated in other threads, never give them to the movers to transport, unless you want to run the risk of never seeing it again. Hopefully your next duty station won't be in a communist state requiring registration. I've been lucky with that so far. If I'm sent to Japan, I may just leave them stateside with my parents.

Another good website that may help out with general info is http://www.packing.org

It mostly pertains to concealed carry laws, but it has some information on transporting firearms between states and may be helpful on your next move.

 

[The Chief]

... I'm trying to "procure" ....

Shhhh..... Next time you are home, ask to borrow the piece, put it in the trunk of your car, trigger lock, no ammo anywhere around, take it to Florida. Historically, police will not give you advice on how to transfer a gun. A prohibition may be in the 1968 GCL, not sure.

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