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No more DCOIC?

bubblehead

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If he was a SEAL, he'd have a trident.
No. He had a convincing story about how he got into trouble and had his SEAL NEC revoked while on active duty, which, in effect, removes one's entitlement to wear the Trident. Yes, it has happened.
 

devilbones

Arashikage トーマス・嵐影
No. He had a convincing story about how he got into trouble and had his SEAL NEC revoked while on active duty, which, in effect, removes one's entitlement to wear the Trident. Yes, it has happened.
But these guys would always have a record of attending BUDS correct? Even if their trident was taken away?
 

bubblehead

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It would still show in their training jacket they attended.
Correct. You can check it in FLTMPS. But most will not. Most laypeople are too shy about checking things like this. In the end, best way is to FOIA request to NSWC. You get back a signed, serial'd, scanned letter on letterhead in PDF form. Hard for turds to refute official correspondence from the mother ship.
 

Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
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But these guys would always have a record of attending BUDS correct? Even if their trident was taken away?

The Navy isn't that big and it isn't too hard to check to whether or not someone was a SEAL or had attended BUD/S. In most of my commands there was usually someone who knew of at least of one person who was either a SEAL or had done a tour in the Teams as a support type.
 

Jones29681

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Word is starting to trickle down that DCOIC is going away in October 19 and that new DCOs will attend the 5-week ODS instead.

There is an agreement in the works to possibly allow reservists to complete the course in two chunks, but nothing is final there.
Lots of good discussion in this thread. I'm working on a DCO kit myself for a board later this year. I have mixed feelings about the 5 weeks for the reasons Reservist laid out. I like the idea of the additional indoc, but 5 consecutive weeks on the very front end of new Navy career is pretty significant for a someone with the requisite civilian responsibilities to even be competitive for a DCO spot.

If this change is 100% official I will have to step back and reevaluate this whole process. It just changes the calculus.

That said, no one has really touched on the "splitting the 5 weeks into two chunks" part of OP's post. That could be a win/win in my opinion. Get a new DCO a little better indoc, but maybe spread it out into two 2.5 week visits to Newport say 6 months apart. Anybody hear anything about that "agreement" OP referenced?
 

Hair Warrior

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I highly doubt that they’ll split it up. You need to complete it within the first year of commissioning - that doesn’t leave a lot of time, after getting gained, getting a quota to the course, etc. Splitting it up defeats the intended purpose of switching to a more rigorous program, and of standardizing naval officer development curricula.
 

AULANI

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That said, no one has really touched on the "splitting the 5 weeks into two chunks" part of OP's post. That could be a win/win in my opinion. Get a new DCO a little better indoc, but maybe spread it out into two 2.5 week visits to Newport say 6 months apart. Anybody hear anything about that "agreement" OP referenced?
I don't know of anyone that would want to visit Newport twice.
 

Flash

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Lots of good discussion in this thread. I'm working on a DCO kit myself for a board later this year. I have mixed feelings about the 5 weeks for the reasons Reservist laid out. I like the idea of the additional indoc, but 5 consecutive weeks on the very front end of new Navy career is pretty significant for a someone with the requisite civilian responsibilities to even be competitive for a DCO spot.

This line of thinking baffles me a bit, don't folks realize that they are likely to do ~1 year mobilization sooner rather than later in their reserve career?
 

Hair Warrior

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What’s wrong with Newport? It’s a very nice place and lots of bars and things to do

Way better than Norfolk
Agree, but then, I also liked VA beach. And San Diego. And Ft Walton Beach (I assume Pcola is similar?). And I will probably also like Fallon and Monterey if I ever get out there.

Basically I should have joined the Navy a long time ago, when I was single and hated my job and had way more time for E-ATs/ADTs/ADSWs.
 
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