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Digging through the detrails in the BRAC recommendations, it looks like OCS will be headed off to Newport. The goal is to consolidate all officer training (except USNA) at one place.

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Out of the frying pan into the freezer. Sucks to be a winter class.
 
fc2spyguy

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hell yeah it will, I thought it sucked when I got here (February). Not so much the cold but the wind is hat gets ya.
 
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ghost said:
Digging through the detrails in the BRAC recommendations, it looks like OCS will be headed off to Newport. The goal is to consolidate all officer training (except USNA) at one place.

http://www.defenselink.mil/brac/pdf/Vol_I_Part_2_DOD_BRAC.pdf

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Link didn't work so excuse me for not being totally informed. What other officer training is there to consolodate, OIS?! Are they saying it would be easier and cheaper to move OCS to Newport than move OIS to P-cola? Did they consider the extra PCS moves when the aviator types have to report to P-cola for API and some of the VT assingments?
 
Falcaner

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Not sure how this is going to play out. I think if they keep OCS how it is now with DIs and everything then it will be fine. But if they for some reason they take away DIs i think it would detriment to the quality of the training. But one positive would be that you have more bars to go to when you get liberty in Newport!
 
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wink said:
Link didn't work so excuse me for not being totally informed. What other officer training is there to consolodate, OIS?! Are they saying it would be easier and cheaper to move OCS to Newport than move OIS to P-cola? Did they consider the extra PCS moves when the aviator types have to report to P-cola for API and some of the VT assingments?
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And (since we are trying to inject common sense into the Navy), why not have an API at Corpus (for those attending Primary there), and an API at PCola (for Whiting SNAs and all NFOs)? That, too, would greatly cut down on PCS moves.

I don't know what the facilities are like at Corpus, but I'll assume there is no helo dunker. So what?

Either 1) Eliminate helo dunkers as a requirement (until SNAs are sent to South Field, which would use the PCola dunker anyway), or 2) Build another dunker in Corpus with the money you save from PCSing SNAs to Corpus after Preflight.
 
gaijin6423

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ELIMINATE THE DUNKER?? But that was the best part of API! Thou speakest blasphemy.

Seriously, though, as the BRAC list stands right now, it has NAVSTA Ingleside going away. This means that the boats there get sent somewhere else (probably San Diego), and that the one MH-53 squadron here would wind up in VA. The buildings would need to be seriously modified, but definitely could be transitioned to an api-esque group of buildings. Provided, of course, that the BRAC list actually goes thru as-is, and that the Corpus Christi Army Depot doesn't claim the real estate (a distinct posibility).
 
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ELIMINATE THE DUNKER?? But that was the best part of API!
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Wiping my a$$ the morning after eating a dozen of Wild Wings's (Charleston) "Braveheart" wings beats even the best part of API.
 
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wink said:
Link didn't work so excuse me for not being totally informed. What other officer training is there to consolodate, OIS?! Are they saying it would be easier and cheaper to move OCS to Newport than move OIS to P-cola? Did they consider the extra PCS moves when the aviator types have to report to P-cola for API and some of the VT assingments?
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The Naval Academy Prep School is in Newport. The Naval Science Institute (STA 21, NROTC college program) is in Newport. Navy BOOST and Marine Corps BOOST is in Newport. Everything BUT OCS is in Newport.
 
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etnuclearsailor said:
The Naval Academy Prep School is in Newport. The Naval Science Institute (STA 21, NROTC college program) is in Newport. Navy BOOST and Marine Corps BOOST is in Newport. Everything BUT OCS is in Newport.
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Those are not officer candidate programs per se. They are not commissioning sources. They are also rleativley small programs. I counter with API and Air Crew Candidate School, or whatever they call that now. I don't see it.
 
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wink said:
Those are not officer candidate programs per se. They are not commissioning sources. They are also rleativley small programs. I counter with API and Air Crew Candidate School, or whatever they call that now. I don't see it.
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Yeah, I'm with Wink. I'll believe it when i see it. I know it's pointless to inject logic into the process, but they just spent a buttload to consolidate and move the A schools from Millington. It just makes sense to keep more training at NASP.

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etnuclearsailor said:
The Naval Academy Prep School is in Newport. The Naval Science Institute (STA 21, NROTC college program) is in Newport. Navy BOOST and Marine Corps BOOST is in Newport. Everything BUT OCS is in Newport.
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Not true, not true. Also in Pensacola is Limited Duty Officer Schools, Chief Warrant Officer Schools, and the Direct Commissioning courses. I believe that integrating these four schools with everything that is already in RI will make things too crowded. In Pesacola they all do a decent enough job of staying out of each other's way. This is especially true for the OCSers; though they take up the most space, they hardly see the other types of officers in training. When you throw in the rest of the schools, it seems that a lot more space-sharing will be required and it will be more difficult to focus on the desired type of training for each commissioning source. Of course, I haven't been to the RI installation so I have no idea how many empty buildings there are just sitting around. There could be plety of room.
 
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