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OCS UK (RAF) Style

ChuckMK23

FERS and TSP contributor!
pilot
So, interesting vid outlining OCS in the Royal Air Force.

Comments? Thoughts? Difference in approach between USN OCS?

 

Afterburner76

Life is Gouda
pilot
I clicked this vid to skim it and ended up watching the entire thing. Interesting look into RAF O-Ganger trng... thanks for posting. I noticed the barracks inspector referred to the trainees by their 1st names. That's something you'd never see here.
 

Mumbles

Registered User
pilot
Contributor
God bless Her Majesty's Fighting Force....

They are extremely professional and great peeps to be around. But this
is a little more intense. Oooh fvckin rahhh!

this crappola is why the Brits lost their Empire!!

 

Cron

Yankee Uniform Tango
God bless Her Majesty's Fighting Force....

They are extremely professional and great peeps to be around. But this
is a little more intense. Oooh fvckin rahhh!

The Gunnery Sergeant sounds like he eats 7.62 rounds for breakfast then washes them down with tears of the unborn. If someone told me he shoots lasers out of his eyes I'd probably laugh, but keep it in the back of my mind just to play it safe.
 

scoolbubba

Brett327 gargles ballsacks
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Contributor
but our candidates don't get such sweet berets. instead they get chrome domes.

everyone knows the british officers are too civilized for that kind of treatment, even as candidates.

on a serious note, is it a good deal or bad deal for a USMC Gunnery Sgt/Staff Sgt to be a class DI for Navy candidates vice USMC OCS?
 

HAL Pilot

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but our candidates don't get such sweet berets. instead they get chrome domes.

everyone knows the british officers are too civilized for that kind of treatment, even as candidates.

on a serious note, is it a good deal or bad deal for a USMC Gunnery Sgt/Staff Sgt to be a class DI for Navy candidates vice USMC OCS?
Yeah that DI was slacking.....4+ minutes in the clip and he didn't drop them for push-ups once.....

Back in the AOCS days I asked my DI this very question after I commissioned (in 1983). I had been an Army Drill Sargent prior to going to AOCS.

His answer back then was that he had taught both and he liked Navy AOCS better. He said that as a DI, he was more regimented in what he could do with Marine OCS candidates then Navy AOCS candidates. He had a free rein both to train as he saw fit and to mess with the Navy guys. He felt it made it easier for him to get rid of those he felt couldn't hack being an officer and to test those that were marginal. He also said that while Marine OCS was physically harder as far as having longer runs, harder PT tests, etc., he felt that in many ways Navy AOCS was more physically demanding as he could basically PT us for as long as he wanted whenever he wanted. He said PT wise, you had to be in better shape for the Marines OCS, but you had to have better desire for the AOCS Navy. Finally, he said Navy AOCS added in more academics, studying and petty BS to increase the stress level and required greater time-management and prioritizing where Marine OCS had a more regimented schedule. But he also emphasized that they were totally different systems designed to produce different types of officers and that both systems worked.

I have no idea how it is now. AOCS was a totally different animal then today's OCS. I'm sure Marine OCS has changed significantly since that time too. There were only aviation candidates at AOCS, no Navy Chiefs working with the DIs and totally different syllabus. AOCS typically commissioned only about 25-35%. I remember Class 13-83 started out with over 75 candidates and the DI announced their class number was 13-83 so this meant only 13 would be commissioned. And that is the number they commissioned. My class commissioned 18 out of 80-something that showed up for the first day physicals and the 60-something that survived the physicals.
 

Junkball

"I believe in ammunition"
pilot
8-yr old OCS

Ohh lets play with Lego's! Seriously, are they playing with Lego's? Her Majesty must view them as the building blocks to a solid military...
 

MasterBates

Well-Known Member
While that may be a chuckle to see, there is probably more going on there. Like seeing how people work in groups, learning how people think, and being able to apply problem solving in a group.

Used to do that sort of crap in engineering classes occasionally.
 
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