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Oregon Aero Zetaliners
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SNA's dont rate them unless your helmet really doesnt fit and there isnt any other way to make it fit comfortably. (Or you are really nice to your PR's hint hint). As for them being worth it. Definately! The problem with buying them on your own is that they come in many different sizes and it depends on your helmet and your head. So if you are in a training command, at least ask what size might fit you, or test fit one. I love mine!! Leaps and bounds about the glorified bubble wrap.
I concur,
You'd do best to quietly offer a PR a squadron t-shirt or similar and mention you are getting real bad hot spots with your current helmet liner.
Combined that with a pleasant attitude and good sense of humor and you could easily get a new liner.
PRs are people, too. Plus, your life really is in their hands...
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You'd do best to quietly offer a PR a squadron t-shirt or similar and mention you are getting real bad hot spots with your current helmet liner.
Combined that with a pleasant attitude and good sense of humor and you could easily get a new liner.
PRs are people, too. Plus, your life really is in their hands...
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Took me till my last 3 weeks in advanced to finally get it, but it was worth it. Got the liner and earcaps. All the guys I know are pissed they are still stuck with bubble wrap. Now Im just trying to get the eaplug/mic rig from the PR's out here in North Island.
Any of the old guys remember helmet pours? Talk about a crappy heavy hot spot making helmet.
Had a guy in my squadron who's helmet pour leaked and he had bald spots where his hair was pulled out in tufts all over his head...
His new Delta Chi Callsign: Chemo
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Had a guy in my squadron who's helmet pour leaked and he had bald spots where his hair was pulled out in tufts all over his head...
His new Delta Chi Callsign: Chemo
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Helmet pours??? As in "form-fit" helmets?? Ahhhhh ..... Progress. You guys today are so lucky to have the decent equipment you possess. It's all relative .....
Helmet pours were an "advanced system mod" when I was in ..... We used what I think was the PRK-37/P which was designed in the late '60's (?). Fiberglass cloth molded with epoxy resin and a foam liner. Two sizes: medium and large. Final fitting was accomplished with moveable/removeable sticky foam "spacers".
Very sophisticated. :icon_smil And very close to what I think the P-3 community uses today ..... ???
No wonder so many helmets and heads were lost on ejection ....
Helmet pours were an "advanced system mod" when I was in ..... We used what I think was the PRK-37/P which was designed in the late '60's (?). Fiberglass cloth molded with epoxy resin and a foam liner. Two sizes: medium and large. Final fitting was accomplished with moveable/removeable sticky foam "spacers".
Very sophisticated. :icon_smil And very close to what I think the P-3 community uses today ..... ???
No wonder so many helmets and heads were lost on ejection ....
Schnuggapup said:
Oh yeah, the old HGU-33. Remember the old foam spacers you had before you got to the RAG and got the helmet pour.
Then we got the HGU-55 (?) for the NVG mod with the nape strap. That got replaced with an HGU-86 when I got to Prowlers so I still have the HGU-55 with my Intruder colors sitting on my bookcase.
As for the poured liners, they don't help keep your helmet on. Lost my HGU-33 in an ejection. Visor up (working the radar), mask on, strap may have been fastened. Helmet was still ripped off my head. They figure my mask hit the canopy bow since a piece of it was still attached to the oxygen hose.
Rest of the story will cost beer, though Schnugg may have heard of it. Hint: Never fly with a AF guy who says "Watch this". (Thumping)
Just to chime in...
I love my Zetaliner, and recommend them, along w/ the earcups. However, if you're still in the training command, I'd wait until you're in advanced, when you know what kind of helmet you are going to wear. The liners are a bit different from the jet helmet to the helo helmet, so you might have to "aquire" a new one if you change helmets (or just become one of those P-3 pukes who don't wear them). Otherwise, the bubblewrap is livable for the 16-20 weeks of primary.
I love my Zetaliner, and recommend them, along w/ the earcups. However, if you're still in the training command, I'd wait until you're in advanced, when you know what kind of helmet you are going to wear. The liners are a bit different from the jet helmet to the helo helmet, so you might have to "aquire" a new one if you change helmets (or just become one of those P-3 pukes who don't wear them). Otherwise, the bubblewrap is livable for the 16-20 weeks of primary.
My first helmet was what A4s described. A rock hard liner that had some padding. I swear I had a dent on my head above my brow from it. Form fit were just coming into their own at that time. So I got one of those a year later. Got a HGU-65 in the early 90s. What a change.
I can tell you if you think bubble wrap liner is bad, try the old stuff we flew with...lots of weight...imagine it under 6.5 gs. I now have a 17.5" neck....all muscle, baby.
Yes, I did know a few USAF exchange pilots flying A-6s...hmmm. Was it VA-95 on the Enterprise, CVW-11?
Cheers,
G
I can tell you if you think bubble wrap liner is bad, try the old stuff we flew with...lots of weight...imagine it under 6.5 gs. I now have a 17.5" neck....all muscle, baby.
Yes, I did know a few USAF exchange pilots flying A-6s...hmmm. Was it VA-95 on the Enterprise, CVW-11?
Cheers,
G
Remember it well...trip to the PR shop to get "fitted" involved sitting down with an old helmet with (I sh!t you not) cabinet door handles tapped in w/ screws and a hole in the top of the helmet to let them literally "pour" that mixture in. In the meantime, you've got to keep this jury-rigged helmet pulled down by the handles to make sure it forms correctly against your skull. Nothing like having hotspots later and watching the PRs pound them down w/ a ball-peen hammer. The 55's were a nice improvement - lighter, cooler, and given the change to the -65 a few years later mine also makes for a nice bookcase display (complete w/ sqaudron colors like Meat's :icon_mi_1 ). We were just starting to get the Zetaliners when I transferred last year, so no soup for me...A4sForever said:
Another good mod to get from the PR's is the CEP (Communication Ear Pieces). It's an optional mod to most helmet models. We had it in the S-3 and I still have it in the C-2. It's foamie earplugs that have mini speakers in them so you literally only hear the ics/radios. All outside noise is blocked out. The foamie portion is disposable so they aren't gross after a while.