I was just talking to the admin folks here at NRD about this today actually. You can change your HOR twice in your life.
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Pcs? Tad? Wtf?!?
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I was just talking to the admin folks here at NRD about this today actually. You can change your HOR twice in your life.
pdx
HSM Pilot
Interesting, PSD told me the only time you can change your home of record is when you are discharged and re-enter service. Since OCS/BDCP guys are discharged from enlisted service at the end of OCS (with DD214), we were told to speak now or forever hold our peace.
I don't really know crap about admin stuff, but in good airwarriors fashion, I would throw in whatever (dis)information I have.
Hope this Helps.....
Here's a few answers for you. I worked in PSD for a few months while enlisted prior to reporting to the Academy. I really really doubt that the Navy has changed all of it's rules on moves since then. Here goes...
The length of time you are here is solely dependent upon API, not then length of time you wait to start API. Because of that, you are only authorized TAD or TEMDUINS orders (unless you're married). You can always ask your detailer to get PCS orders but that'll be dang near impossible. Since you have those orders you're limited to 600lbs stuff max.
The Navy will move whatever you want, up to the 600lbs, from where you are at right now down to Pensacola. Then, when you go to Whiting/Corpus/Vance, the Navy will give you PCS orders from your choice of your home of record OR your NROTC unit (or wherever you were commissioned). As for your home of record, the Navy will only move stuff from it once in your career. You can change it a maximum of two times, when you first enter (your DIEMS date on your LES), and then when you get out.
You didn't say what furniture you don't want to get rid of so I don't know how big it is. Can it fit into a U-Haul trailer? If so, sign up for a DITY move and rent a tow-trailer. The Navy will pay you back for moving your own stuff, which includes gas, tolls, oil, rental equipment, etc. You'll have to weigh it empty and full. Since you're only TAD here, the Navy will pay you back for up to 600lbs of stuff, even if in reality you bring 1000lbs of stuff. However, if you have the Navy contract a moving company to move your stuff, they will only take 600lbs of stuff, if they take more you'll be paying for it and it won't be cheap.
The other option is if you can stand to part with the furniture, sell it and be done with it. You're eligible for DLA (dislocation allowance) plus travel and a few other things. Point being, you'll get a few thousand that you can get new stuff with (it may take some time, but you'll get it, just be sure to ask).
When you finally do have PCS orders, the Navy will let you pick up from two locations, considering one as your locale or HOR and the other being a storage location.
As for the per diem while here in P-cola. Supposedly if you don't sign any type of lease or stay in the BOQ then you'll get it. That said, the official reg on per diem is that your permanent duty station can't be in a radius of about 50-60 miles. What that means is, technically, that going to Whiting after API you won't get per diem, but to anywhere else will get you the per diem. Now if that actually happens or not is solely up to the PSD you talk to and whomever files your paperwork.
I hope that all helps clear some things up. That is the way things are supposed to work. You can always try to work good deals by schmoozing the PSD ladies or just being lucky, but my biggest piece of advice before you move is to make certain you know exactly what is about to happen so you don't get stuck paying out of your own pocket.
Here's a few answers for you. I worked in PSD for a few months while enlisted prior to reporting to the Academy. I really really doubt that the Navy has changed all of it's rules on moves since then. Here goes...
The length of time you are here is solely dependent upon API, not then length of time you wait to start API. Because of that, you are only authorized TAD or TEMDUINS orders (unless you're married). You can always ask your detailer to get PCS orders but that'll be dang near impossible. Since you have those orders you're limited to 600lbs stuff max.
The Navy will move whatever you want, up to the 600lbs, from where you are at right now down to Pensacola. Then, when you go to Whiting/Corpus/Vance, the Navy will give you PCS orders from your choice of your home of record OR your NROTC unit (or wherever you were commissioned). As for your home of record, the Navy will only move stuff from it once in your career. You can change it a maximum of two times, when you first enter (your DIEMS date on your LES), and then when you get out.
You didn't say what furniture you don't want to get rid of so I don't know how big it is. Can it fit into a U-Haul trailer? If so, sign up for a DITY move and rent a tow-trailer. The Navy will pay you back for moving your own stuff, which includes gas, tolls, oil, rental equipment, etc. You'll have to weigh it empty and full. Since you're only TAD here, the Navy will pay you back for up to 600lbs of stuff, even if in reality you bring 1000lbs of stuff. However, if you have the Navy contract a moving company to move your stuff, they will only take 600lbs of stuff, if they take more you'll be paying for it and it won't be cheap.
The other option is if you can stand to part with the furniture, sell it and be done with it. You're eligible for DLA (dislocation allowance) plus travel and a few other things. Point being, you'll get a few thousand that you can get new stuff with (it may take some time, but you'll get it, just be sure to ask).
When you finally do have PCS orders, the Navy will let you pick up from two locations, considering one as your locale or HOR and the other being a storage location.
As for the per diem while here in P-cola. Supposedly if you don't sign any type of lease or stay in the BOQ then you'll get it. That said, the official reg on per diem is that your permanent duty station can't be in a radius of about 50-60 miles. What that means is, technically, that going to Whiting after API you won't get per diem, but to anywhere else will get you the per diem. Now if that actually happens or not is solely up to the PSD you talk to and whomever files your paperwork.
I hope that all helps clear some things up. That is the way things are supposed to work. You can always try to work good deals by schmoozing the PSD ladies or just being lucky, but my biggest piece of advice before you move is to make certain you know exactly what is about to happen so you don't get stuck paying out of your own pocket.
pdx
HSM Pilot
This has been posted many times here, but it isn't always true. If you do not have a previous permanent duty station, you don't get anything until you get your first set of PCS orders. Priors, Academy grads, BDCPers, and many NROTC grads do have a previous station. OCS grads who came directly from the civilian world (like I did) DON'T.
This is one thing I am sure of, because I talked to the PPO MANY times.
Also no, same as above. I had nothing to do for 3 months except lay on the beach and try to get DLA. It did not work. Again, this was for someone in my situation (OCS off the street).
Except that people don't usually have follow-on order in A-pool. This topic has been beat to death here on AW also. It would be interesting to do a poll and see how many people managed to get per diem while they were in A-pool. I certainly couldn't get it.
Good luck. Let me know if you need anything stud.