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Pro Rec'd for OCS (& BDCP??)---What's next?

NavalAviatorDad

New Member
My son received verbal confirmation today from his OR LT that his final medical and security clearances have come through. They will send him the official acceptance letter, then schedule his "swearing in" ceremony.

If all stays on track, it looks like he's headed for BDCP now, then OCS and flight school after college graduation.
 

m0tbaillie

Former SWO
My son received verbal confirmation today from his OR LT that his final medical and security clearances have come through. They will send him the official acceptance letter, then schedule his "swearing in" ceremony.

Sir, do you know what your son's OCS class date is? He should have received it by now.
 

NavalAviatorDad

New Member
His final security and medical clearances have come through, as has his final acceptance letter.

He meets with his O.R. Lt. this Thursday to sign the papers and be sworn in to the U.S. Navy / BDCP.

His life long dreams appear to be coming true. Very gratifying, if not scary, for his parents.

Thanks.
 

Junkball

"I believe in ammunition"
pilot
Congrats

Congratulations to your son. I'm sure you must be proud as well - I know my dad was (and my grandfather even more so!)
I'm in somewhat of a similar boat, and for a minute, I thought my dad had discovered AW and was doing his own research (he's a CPA as well, and I need PRK)!

I've got a couple of questions for you-
When did your son get his PRK, and how long was it before he was able to apply BDCP?

Also, how long was it between his pro-rec and final selection notice?
 

NavalAviatorDad

New Member
Congratulations to your son. I'm sure you must be proud as well - I know my dad was (and my grandfather even more so!)
I'm in somewhat of a similar boat, and for a minute, I thought my dad had discovered AW and was doing his own research (he's a CPA as well, and I need PRK)!

I've got a couple of questions for you-
When did your son get his PRK, and how long was it before he was able to apply BDCP?

Also, how long was it between his pro-rec and final selection notice?

Yes, his Mom and I are very proud of him, for many reasons. I especially admire his persistence in pursuing his dream.

He had PRK on 12/17/07; was released from his eye surgeon in mid-April 2008 with 20/15 vision. He submitted his application for BDCP / OCS / SNA in May 2008 for the June 2008 review board, and was notified on 6/20/08 by his Officer Recruiter that he was Pro Rec'd, pending the final security and medical clearances.

His final acceptance letter for "Pilot BDCP" was dated 7/15/08.

He signed the BDCP contract and was sworn in to the Navy on Thursday 7/24/08, the same day you left your message. It's been a whirlwind couple of weeks.

My Dad died last year. Before he passed he told my son to "Make me proud." I know "Paw Paw" would be very proud of his grandson right now.

I join your Dad and grandfather, I'm proud of YOU too !!

He is your age, so you guys may be on a similar timeline track. All the very best to you.
 

Junkball

"I believe in ammunition"
pilot
Thank you

I appreciate your words of encouragement. It sounds to me like it is a 6 month process from eye-zappin to Final Select. That worries me because I would be very near graduation and possibly not eligible for BDCP ($!).

Thinking it over, though, I probably won't be able to fly for those three mos between surgery and medical clearance so my graduation would be pushed back... who knows!?

I suppose PRK is the way to go, regardless if it leads to a straight shot to OCS or BDCP money. Thanks for the help.
 

NavalAviatorDad

New Member
I appreciate your words of encouragement. It sounds to me like it is a 6 month process from eye-zappin to Final Select. That worries me because I would be very near graduation and possibly not eligible for BDCP ($!).

Thinking it over, though, I probably won't be able to fly for those three mos between surgery and medical clearance so my graduation would be pushed back... who knows!?

I suppose PRK is the way to go, regardless if it leads to a straight shot to OCS or BDCP money. Thanks for the help.

We looked at the PRK surgery as a quality of life issue, regardless of whether Naval Aviation ever became a reality for him. Many on this forum emphasize that priorities should be 1) Naval Officer, then 2) Aviation. Asside from being a Naval Officer, if Aviation is your personal passion / priority as it is for my son, then PRK is a priority for you. You can't fly without the vision, and you can't get the vision to Navy specs without PRK.

And, you will be able to see without glasses / contact lenses, which is the quality of life issue.

Hope this helps.
 

Junkball

"I believe in ammunition"
pilot
We looked at the PRK surgery as a quality of life issue, regardless of whether Naval Aviation ever became a reality for him. Many on this forum emphasize that priorities should be 1) Naval Officer, then 2) Aviation. Asside from being a Naval Officer, if Aviation is your personal passion / priority as it is for my son, then PRK is a priority for you. You can't fly without the vision, and you can't get the vision to Navy specs without PRK.

And, you will be able to see without glasses / contact lenses, which is the quality of life issue.

Hope this helps.

Yes, it is definitely a quality of life issue first and foremost. I've wanted to get LASIK since I was about 17, but I had no idea of the actual process, or that it would have been DQ-ing.

Luckily, my parents understand that I am trying to put myself in the best position possible to fly. I just wish my recruiter would get back to me about my options. I'm waiting on his email for a recommendation. I take it your advice is just to get the surgery done and reapply?
 

NavalAviatorDad

New Member
Yes, it is definitely a quality of life issue first and foremost. I've wanted to get LASIK since I was about 17, but I had no idea of the actual process, or that it would have been DQ-ing.

Luckily, my parents understand that I am trying to put myself in the best position possible to fly. I just wish my recruiter would get back to me about my options. I'm waiting on his email for a recommendation. I take it your advice is just to get the surgery done and reapply?



You sound a lot like, and remind me of, my son. I hope you guys cross paths somewhere along the Naval Aviator line.

If you would elect to have eye surgery to correct your vision in any event, regardless of the Navy and flying, then I would say yes you should seriously consider having it done in timely proximity to your Navy / OCS / BDCP application . "Wavefront guided PRK" is what we were advised by Dr. Stephen Schallhorn (read about his achievements, awards and honors at http://fr.opticalexpress.com/chirurgie-des-yeux-au-laser/dr-steve-schallhorn.html --- scroll down below the part in French)to have done.

PLEASE BE AWARE that PRK is more difficult, physically and emotionally, on the patient than Lasik. By that I mean it is more uncomfortable, for a longer period of time, and the vision is slower to come in (hence the emotional difficulty), when compared with Lasik. If all goes according to plan with both procedures: The typical Lasik patient feels pretty good in a couple of days, with great vision coming in less than a week, often in 1-3 days. With PRK, the discomfort lingers for 2 - 3 weeks, although diminishing over that time. And the vision takes days to weeks to come in, again, continually improving over that time. But, the anticipated results are better with PRK than with Lasik (so we were told by our eye surgeon).

To give you perspective from my son's experience, he had PRK done at the start of his semester break on 12/17/07, and was quite comfortable and more than functional visually when classes resumed on 1/14/08. Once healed and discharged by the eye surgeon in April 2008, his vision was 20/15; near / reading, intermediate, and distant vision (day and night) are all excellent with no lingering complications or side effects (no halos, etc.).

I'm certainly no expert but as I understand it, the Navy's concern with Lasik for Pilots is the structural integrity of the eye in regard to the flap that is cut for Lasik. With PRK, the top layer of cells is scraped from the cornea (hence the increased discomfort and longer time for the vision to come in while the cornea heals), but no flap is cut so the structural integrity of the eye is never potentially compromised therefore never in question.

Lasik would give you the quality of life improved vision you have wanted since you were age 17 (and probably younger than that). But once you tough it out through the PRK recovery and healing, you have potentially better results that will satisfy the Navy and remove that barrier from your dream of becoming a Naval Aviator. Lasik will disqualify you from flying for the Navy; PRK will open that door.

Your call as to when. Get input from your parents and your OR before you do anything. If he's a good one, he (and your parents) won't steer you wrong. Make as well-informed and counseled a decision as you possibly can, without getting stuck in "paralysis of analysis".
 

mtsupilot09

"We lookin fo you. We gon find you!"
Congratulations to your son, he is lucky to have your strong support. My father shares your enthusiasm for my career goals, and I can tell you that your support and attention goes very far in the motivation of your son's goals. Tell him to get on AW when he returns so we can congratulate him "in person". I am waiting right now to find out of I am pro-rec'd or not, and if not, I will apply to every board until the cutoff age. Then I will apply for age waivers. Until this door is completely closed, I will walk through it. Including myself, there are a lot of guys on AW much like your son who have had the goal to be a Naval Aviator for many years. Anyways, again, congrats!
 

NavalAviatorDad

New Member
Congratulations to your son, he is lucky to have your strong support. My father shares your enthusiasm for my career goals, and I can tell you that your support and attention goes very far in the motivation of your son's goals. Tell him to get on AW when he returns so we can congratulate him "in person". I am waiting right now to find out of I am pro-rec'd or not, and if not, I will apply to every board until the cutoff age. Then I will apply for age waivers. Until this door is completely closed, I will walk through it. Including myself, there are a lot of guys on AW much like your son who have had the goal to be a Naval Aviator for many years. Anyways, again, congrats!

Thanks for the congrats to my son and thanks for the encouraging words to his old man (i.e. me). I will tell him to get on AW soon, there are great people with great info here.

We certainly want to support and motivate our son without unduly influencing or interfering with the pursuit of his own goals. In fact, the night before he signed and took his oath, we again advised him to do this for the right reasons---because he has determined that this is truly his passion---and not feel pressured to proceed simply because he has talked about this since he was a child. We told him he should not feel any peer, parental or other social pressure to proceed. This is his life, not ours or anyone else. He assured us that he was doing it for all the right reasons, that he had total peace about his decision, was excited about signing and thrilled at the prospect of going to flight school when the time arrives.

I applaud your determination and encourage you to pursue your goal, follow your dream, unless and until some day you reach a definitively closed door. And even then, push back to be certain that it is closed. Our son was told by several military pilots over the years that if he wanted this bad enough, he should let nothing stand in his way, to never accept "No" for an answer. If he was told "No", politely say "Thank you", then find a way around that obstacle. They all told him that if they could do it, so could he. That was good advice that served him well, and I pass it on to you. Good luck; stay focused on your goals. Your determination will serve you well in life.
 
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