ABF2
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Question: Isn't that why we have to do a commissioning physical to see if we qualify? what would be some of the reasons you would not be medically qualified? and i have a secret clearance.
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Question about final select letter
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Question: Isn't that why we have to do a commissioning physical to see if we qualify? what would be some of the reasons you would not be medically qualified? and i have a secret clearance.
FormerRecruitingGuru
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Some programs you can submit the kit without a physical and a security clearance done. This mainly applies to non prior applicants.
exNavyOffRec
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also, accidents happen, I have seen more than one applicant who after pro Y but before leaving for OCS suffered an injury and subsequently was PDQ'd
ABF2
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what does PDQ'd mean?
What does PDQ'd mean? and would you be allowed to still attend OCS depending on the injury at a later date?
What does PDQ'd mean? and would you be allowed to still attend OCS depending on the injury at a later date?
FormerRecruitingGuru
Making Recruiting Great Again
PQD= Physically Disqualified. As for the injury, how late are we talking about?
exNavyOffRec
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variety, one injured playing team sports, another recreational injury, one simple fall, in each case the PM's were willing to push out the date to allow the person to heal up, some were short term some never recovered (for example broken ankle).
Hello,
So lets assume you get a Pro Rec - Y, is there ever a situation where the Navy would repeal their Pro Rec and not send you a FINSEL effectively making you ineligible to go through OCS? I know the big ones are Medical and Security Clearance, any others? I am a bit confused with the medical reason because I thought MEPS had to be done before you submit your kit, I was cleared from MEPS and I don't have any other medical screening until NAMI. But NAMI is, I think, after you receive your FINSEL. So how can some one be DQ for medical reasons?
Also Security Clearance, I have looked around and I can't seem to find a similar situation. I was born in the US but have a dual citizenship (from an EU country). I didn't really choose it, my parents just sort of signed me up for it when I was an kid. I have a clean record: no crime, no debts, nothing. As part of the law of the country, It is required to vote if there is an election. One summer when I was there on vacation, I was required to vote, again not really my choice. If I have a pretty clean record would I need to be concerned about not getting a Security Clearance due to my dual citizenship? I mentioned all this in my SF86 and I hope to actually get an interview so I can explain my situation in detail. But are the investigators just going to look at it and say "this just doesn't smell right" and not grant me a clearance no exceptions?
My recruiter told me to NOT renounce my citizenship until the board convenes and until after my background check is complete, was that a wise move?
Sorry for the long message.
So lets assume you get a Pro Rec - Y, is there ever a situation where the Navy would repeal their Pro Rec and not send you a FINSEL effectively making you ineligible to go through OCS? I know the big ones are Medical and Security Clearance, any others? I am a bit confused with the medical reason because I thought MEPS had to be done before you submit your kit, I was cleared from MEPS and I don't have any other medical screening until NAMI. But NAMI is, I think, after you receive your FINSEL. So how can some one be DQ for medical reasons?
Also Security Clearance, I have looked around and I can't seem to find a similar situation. I was born in the US but have a dual citizenship (from an EU country). I didn't really choose it, my parents just sort of signed me up for it when I was an kid. I have a clean record: no crime, no debts, nothing. As part of the law of the country, It is required to vote if there is an election. One summer when I was there on vacation, I was required to vote, again not really my choice. If I have a pretty clean record would I need to be concerned about not getting a Security Clearance due to my dual citizenship? I mentioned all this in my SF86 and I hope to actually get an interview so I can explain my situation in detail. But are the investigators just going to look at it and say "this just doesn't smell right" and not grant me a clearance no exceptions?
My recruiter told me to NOT renounce my citizenship until the board convenes and until after my background check is complete, was that a wise move?
Sorry for the long message.
exNavyOffRec
Well-Known Member
It would be rare given the process now for a person not to get a FS, much more common before a N3M letter was required.
You will have to renounce before getting a FS letter which in most cases is before the background check is completed.
So concerning the board, would my PRO REC be conditional? Also renouncing citizenship takes some time and it usually varies from person to person is the navy going to be able to "wait" until my renunciation is complete or will they just tell me that I have a certain amount of limited time REGARDLESS of whether or not it's in my control to speed up the process?
exNavyOffRec
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It is conditional because they can only issue once they have a N3M PQ letter, final transcripts, open security investigation, proof of only US citizenship, and an open spot at OCS for that designator.
FormerRecruitingGuru
Making Recruiting Great Again
Recommended doesn't mean selected.
Thanks for all the responses, but it hasn't really answered my question. It's quite obvious I need to renounce my citizenship before I can ship off to OCS, but my concern is what if it takes a long time to renounce it (I'm talking closer to a year)? Will this be too long of a wait for the navy and therefore force me to loose my chances to serve in the as an officer?
exNavyOffRec
Well-Known Member
It should not take more than a few months to renounce, it most cases all you do is send a letter with your passport to the designated address and then they send a letter back, sometimes with the passport with a hole through it.
I had your exact situation when waiting on a final select. I put through my renunciation paperwork the moment I received my recommendation AND knew my background investigation paperwork had been routed. I spoke in great detail with my background investigator about my foreign ties (also an EU country and strong ally of the US) and the renouncing of my citizenship did not take too long. Submit your paperwork renouncing your citizenship before your ship date/background investigation is completed and hold onto it. I had a little bit of a paperwork issues two days before graduation where my investigation was "pending" since they thought I was a dual citizen. However, I had copies of the paperwork saying I had submitted my renunciation paperwork and there were no further issues once I gave copies to the security officer at OCS.
Moral of the story: MAKE COPIES OF EVERYTHING AND BRING WITH YOU especially if your package is "unusual"
This. Take a copy of your letter to OCS along with the letter sent back to you. I had to send my passport in with my paperwork and I did not receive it back at any point. I was told I would be able to get my citizenship and passport back for the "low, low" price equivalent of $2200.