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Question about the guaranteed flight contract. (kinda long story attached)

redbaron586

Registered User
Hey guys, new here, looking for some help. I went flying yesterday and before I left the fbo to go to my plane some Marine aviators were in there and I was wondering what they were doing and then when I came back from flying, they had just landed and were going over some stuff with some other people. I asked the people at the counter of the FBO what they were doing with those people they were with and they said those people have flight conracts and they are just taking them up to just to see what it is like. I went over and was jsut gonna ask one of them a question b/c I wanted to talk to a real military pilot to see if there were eye surgeries that weren't disqualifying, and he said PRK and then asked if I wore contacts and I said yes and he said okay well there is a contact waiver you can get now. He then asked if I wanted to go up with them in their king-air and I said absolutley and he then got the 6 of us in a circle to ask if any of us have any flight experience. I was othe only one to raise my hand and they asked me what I had and I said private pilot's license and they said thats really good and then he asked who wanted to fly first in the co-pilot's seat and I raised my hand. so he takes us off and he hands me the controls right after and he says alright take me over there towards the Farmville MOA( I fly out of hanover municipal airport, which I did and he was like okay, you can do whatever you want from 8-10 thounsand feet. Seeing that no one else had any flight experience and the fact that I wanted to show them that I could actually fly, I just did a 30 degree bank and hen he said to push it over more and so Iwas like what the heck and did a steep turn and headed us back in the direction of the other waypoint. he asked me if I had any questions and I was like "yes I do, but it is just one. I am a college sophmore, and flying is what I want to do for a career. how do I get from where I am to where I want to go. and he said to talk to the other guy when we got back down. so he let me fly for a few more minutes and shook my hand I switched with another guy in the back.


So we got back down and everybody starts clearing out, and leaving and I wait for a minute and the other Marine aviatior just so happened to be an OSO and he said I'm gonna get you some information. I told him that I wanted to fly for the rest of my life and he said that he gurantee me a flight contract with them after I graduate from college. And I perked up to the sound of this and he said that we break the ocs down into two terms, once durring the summer afte my sophmore year and then agan after my junior year, and then I'd got to tbs. I would have to pass the flight physical and flight test and what not, before that could happen I guess.

Anyway, he gave me a brochure, his card and then gave me an officer candidate application to look over and to give back to him if I wanted to do it.

What I would like to know is if this is something to definitly look into. I don't want to sign up for it and then some small stipulation keep me from flying and also keep me from getting out. It happened to a my bro-in-laws friend and he said that he had his single and multi engine land, instrument and commercial license, went on to do this and they told him he didn't have depth percetion and then went to the infantry.

Can anyone give me some advice?
 

KBayDog

Well-Known Member
First off, welcome to the forum. I think you will find some good information here about the Marine aviation programs if you poke around the various forums.

I'll sum it up as simply as I can, though: The program the OSO referred to is the Platoon Leader's Class (PLC). Essentially, if you are accepted (application package and flight physical) you divide OCS into two six-week sessions, then commission upon completion of college. You can get a "guaranteed aviation" contract into PLC. When you commission, you will be designated as a 7599 - Student Naval Aviator. You the attend The Basic School in Quantico for six months, then report to Pensacola to begin flight school.

Honestly, though, there are no guarantees that you will end up as a Winged aviator. A million and one things could happen between you signing on the dotted line and earning your Wings. You could poke your eye at TBS and be medically disqualified; you could be "diagnosed" with some strange ailment in Pensacola; you could not adapt to military aviation (IT HAPPENS); etc. In most cases, if you are still fit for duty, you will be reassigned to another field. I am not trying to scare you - the vast majority of those who begin the aviation process complete it. I just want you to realize that even though you are "guaranteed" a seat in flight school, nothing can "guarantee" that you will fly. Also, if you earn your Wings, you need to understand that you will not spend 24/7/365 for 20 years in the cockpit. You will shuffle between flying, desk jobs, "other" jobs, etc.

I encourage you to search this site, investigate all of the services (including the Coast Guard), see what they have to offer, do plenty of research, and ask questions. However, my standard advice for those considering military aviation: Do not accept a commission into any of the services unless you are 100% sure that you will be happy serving as an officer in that service, aviation or otherwise. In the Marine Corps, for example, do not accept a commission unless you know you will be happy as an aviator, infantry platoon commander, adjutant, etc.

Best of luck.
 

skidkid

CAS Czar
pilot
Super Moderator
Contributor
I dont think I would be happy as an adjutant.

Good advice above if you ahve further qestions ask
 

redbaron586

Registered User
oh definitely. I know not to put my eggs in one basket and to have a back up plan incase my original plan goes south.

Do the other branches offer any similar program?

thanks for the help, guys.

-Michael
 

redbaron586

Registered User
I saw that on their website. It just sid something about getting paid to get my degree. Iy seems as though people are talking on here about it a lot. How exactly does it work?
 

Thisguy

Pain-in-the-dick
redbaron586 said:
I saw that on their website. It just sid something about getting paid to get my degree. Iy seems as though people are talking on here about it a lot. How exactly does it work?

You basically get locked into an OCS slot after graduation and get E-3 pay an allowances while you finish school. I'd contact an Officer recruiter for details. It sounds like this would be better for you, since the marines only got your attention with the word "guaranteed"
 

redbaron586

Registered User
Thisguy said:
You basically get locked into an OCS slot after graduation and get E-3 pay an allowances while you finish school. I'd contact an Officer recruiter for details. It sounds like this would be better for you, since the marines only got your attention with the word "guaranteed"

guranteed wasn't the only thing that got my attention.I was just looking for info and when he said" guranteed", it surprised me

I'll talk to a Navy OSO on monday, but in the mean time, is there an aviation program you can sign up for when you do BDCP?
 

Thisguy

Pain-in-the-dick
redbaron586 said:
I'll talk to a Navy OSO on monday, but in the mean time, is there an aviation program you can sign up for when you do BDCP?

Yes. When you apply for BDCP, you apply for a specific designator. So if you get picked up for SNA, then you're guaranteed that designator unless something strange happens (Like your vision getting worse than 20/40 prior to OCS). It's not an "aviation program" per se, but nonetheless, it's not like ROTC where if you're not selected for aviation, you still have to pick something.
 

redbaron586

Registered User
Thisguy said:
Yes. When you apply for BDCP, you apply for a specific designator. So if you get picked up for SNA, then you're guaranteed that designator unless something strange happens (Like your vision getting worse than 20/40 prior to OCS). It's not an "aviation program" per se, but nonetheless, it's not like ROTC where if you're not selected for aviation, you still have to pick something.

okay, that clears things up. I guess a better word than program would have been "option". Does the Navy offer the contact lense waiver?
 

LTsantini

New Member
I did PLC, OCS, commissioned upon graduation. I was quite happy with the route i chose. Guaranteed flight slot is good to go, but if your just going in the service to fly...look into the Navy.
 

Steve Wilkins

Teaching pigs to dance, one pig at a time.
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but if your just going in the service to fly...look into the Navy.
I think you mean Air Force. Anybody going into the service JUST to fly will be severely disappointed with both the Navy and the Marine Corps.
 

ArkhamAsylum

500+ Posts
pilot
If you won't be happy with anything besides aviation, the Marine Corps is definitely not for you. Perhaps any military branch for that matter.
 

ENG6INE

New Member
I think you mean Air Force. Anybody going into the service JUST to fly will be severely disappointed with both the Navy and the Marine Corps.

If you won't be happy with anything besides aviation, the Marine Corps is definitely not for you. Perhaps any military branch for that matter.


What do you guys mean by this?
 
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