Random Griz Aviation Musings

[wink]

On the aircraft I'm familiar with it was all airspeed based. If gear handle not down and airspeed < 50 = light plus aural warning...

Well, I guess most helos with retractable gear are not the type to run around at slow speeds. But it wasn't uncommon in my LE experience to fly at less than 50 knots in a Bell 206/406. Dealing with a nuisance gear warning would be a hassle.

 

[ChuckMK23]

New tenant on the airport here at I68, owner is retired Army O-6, relocating airplane from N Va area. SEA veteran O-2A with battle damage repair to prove it. Original instruments except Garmin 530, King HSI, Garmin transponder, etc. Beautiful airplane. It will be up at Oshkosh.

 

[ea6bflyr]

On the aircraft I'm familiar with it was all airspeed based. If gear handle not down and airspeed < 50 = light plus aural warning...

When I flew in the UH-3A, it was called LAWS (Low alt warning system). Airspeed and gear position would give you a tone and flashing light in the gear handle.

 

[jmcquate]

Saw a CG Dolphin at about a 1000 feet over Arlington today with its' gear extended. Thought it was odd.

 

[Griz882]

Saw a CG Dolphin at about a 1000 feet over Arlington today with its' gear extended. Thought it was odd.

That’s DC heli route 6…the Coasties flying out of the base at DCA drop their gear just south of the Army-Navy Country Club and make a steep approach over the big hangars to land. I wonder if the guys stationed there consider it good duty or bad?

 

[ChuckMK23]

Busy night getting out of KLUK... #5. 2 jets and 3 piston singles in the runup area....

 

[Gatordev]

Well, I guess most helos with retractable gear are not the type to run around at slow speeds. But it wasn't uncommon in my LE experience to fly at less than 50 knots in a Bell 206/406. Dealing with a nuisance gear warning would be a hassle.

Different airframes like to operate at different regimes. For heavier aircraft, going slower than 50 really starts to increase the power required. Slower than 50 is also probably going to trip the AFCS out of certain modes (it's 50 knots for the -60 and 60 knots for the -135, for example). I'm not smart on tilt-rotors and how slower speed affects things like that, but I'm guessing it does something since it would have some sort of SAS at a minimum.

 

[Hair Warrior]

similarly to how I cover Michigan UP from WPAFB and southern Ohio...

Has CAP had many SAR events IVO Lake Superior and UP Michigan?

 

[Griz882]

Was looking at photos of the retractable gear Bell 360 Invictus. It occurred to me that retractable gear in a helicopter will be something new to the Army. That led me to think about gear up warnings. Most fixed wing gear up warnings are some combination of flap setting, power setting, altitude or speed. With relatively constant speed turbines and rotor, normal ops speeds to zero, and normal ops at low altitude, how do gear up warnings work in a helicopter?

Gear down and locked….

 

[Hair Warrior]

another Masshole here.... one who has been looking for a place on the Cape for some time

What part? I’m actually on the Cape right now…

 

[Hair Warrior]

That’s DC heli route 6…the Coasties flying out of the base at DCA drop their gear just south of the Army-Navy Country Club and make a steep approach over the big hangars to land. I wonder if the guys stationed there consider it good duty or bad?

Lots of helos over DC. Including some funny looking ones. Edit- this helipad is for US Park Police:

 

[ChuckMK23]

Has CAP had many SAR events IVO Lake Superior and UP Michigan?

Quite a few in fact and good interagency coordination with CG and Army Guard.

 

[Griz882]

Lots of helos over DC. Including some funny looking ones. Edit- this helipad is for US Park Police:
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Here’s a shot of DC’s only “public” heliport near the baseball stadium and just across the river from where Marine One is kept! As far as I can tell, you have to be a member of Congress to land there…or a big donor!

 

[jmcquate]

Lots of helos over DC. Including some funny looking ones. Edit- this helipad is for US Park Police:

The ones I see all the time:
HMX-1 60s, VH-3s and Plopters
USAF UH-1s
Army 60s
Coast Guard Dolphins
Secret Service Bell 204 (I Think)
Maryland State Police (not sure of type)
Various flavors of Medivac

 

[Griz882]

The ones I see all the time:
HMX-1 60s, VH-3s and Plopters
USAF UH-1s
Army 60s
Coast Guard Dolphins
Secret Service Bell 204 (I Think)
Maryland State Police (not sure of type)
Various flavors of Medivac

What, no Griz-O-Copter?