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Road to 350: What Does the US Navy Do Anyway?

Faded Float Coat said:
I gave you four (of hundreds of possible) links from an array of sources. Each of them point to the deliberate decision to remove senior officials from atop various chains of command, to include the JAG Corps. You can hem and haw and say that's not what it is, but you're being willfully naive.

This shit isn't hard, unless you're trying not to see it, or just dont know what you're looking at. A few of the regulars around here will claim this is all just misguided TDS, but those are the same people who probably never really understood their own oaths in the first place, so you know grains of salt and all that...

To bring this back to something adjacent to the title of the thread, this is some interesting reporting on current USN/USMC ops in SOUTHCOM.*


* if Yahoo is to biased and inaccurate, I'll DM you a dozen different links that say the same thing.
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I will dogpile on that a bit and say that as a term, "TDS" is a stupid byproduct of social media echo-chambers, and is meaningless in debate. If you've ever used it, just stop.
 
sevenhelmet said:
someone with less experience cannot “take someone to task”
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Yes, ordinarily I would agree with this principle, but in this case, I think Spekkio's body of work on this site provides us some insight on the general validity of his claims or thought processes. It's a little bit like if we had a 7th grader who has just finished an Intro to Biology class questioning a heart surgeon's suturing technique.

In this specific case, I'm going to lend more trust to a SME who has spent much of his career in senior DoD positions, serving both GOP and Dem administrations, than a guy who hasn't set foot in an E-ring suite, and that has built his reputation on this site for bizarre hare-brained theories and partisan talking points.

This is the basis for my expressed incredulity.
 
sevenhelmet said:
Simping to Trump to make your point? Gross. Enjoy that diapery taste. Donald Trump he is a terrible human being, a poor example of a leader, and is driving us off a fiscal, military, and foreign policy cliff.
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Not simping for Trump. Pointing out the hypocrisy in Brett's argument that someone who is successful is beyond criticism.

You can think all of those things about Trump (or Biden), it doesn't bother me at all. I don't root for politicians like they're my favorite sports team.

I'm just not going to throw it in your face that he's one of 45 people to have ever served as US President, is advised and briefed by dozens of cabinet members and staffers, and is on the Forbes 400 list.... while you're not, and therefore you have no right to criticize his policies or opinions.

At the end of the day, Mr. Kendall is making the same partisan argument as most Democrat voters vis a vis Trump's use of the military. And his assertion that there is an entire cadre of GOFO suffering in silence over their moral dilemma with the exception of one brave USSOUTHCOM commander is specious.

You can make an intelligent (and much more convincing, IMO) argument criticizing Trump's strategy toward Venezuela without jumping off the legalese deep end. I'm pretty sure the 17 small boats we've eliminated have the same operational effect as trying to kill a bear by poking it with a stick.

sevenhelmet said:
I will dogpile on that a bit and say that as a term, "TDS" is a stupid byproduct of social media echo-chambers, and is meaningless in debate. If you've ever used it, just stop.
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Good thing I didn't use it.
 
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Recent (today) article...


In a September speech attended by hundreds of senior officers from around the world, Mr. Hegseth singled out several recently retired four-star generals for scorn.

“The new compass heading is clear,” Mr. Hegseth told the officers gathered at Quantico, Va. “Out with the Chiarellis, the McKenzies and the Milleys.” He was referring to Gen. Peter W. Chiarelli, the former Army vice chief of staff, and Gen. Kenneth F. McKenzie Jr., a former head of Central Command.

Several officers in the crowd that day had worked for the generals Mr. Hegseth disparaged and considered them mentors. So, too, had more junior officers.

“The message being sent to those younger soldiers and sailors and airmen and Marines is that politics can and should be part of your military service,” said Representative Jason Crow, Democrat of Colorado and a former Army Ranger
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and

In the case of Rear Adm. Michael Donnelly, the end came because of a seven-year-old story, recycled through the right-wing media. The Pentagon announced in June that Admiral Donnelly, the former commander of the aircraft carrier Ronald Reagan, was being nominated to be vice admiral and commander of the Navy’s largest overseas force, the Seventh Fleet.

But in July, Mr. Hegseth withdrew the nomination after The Daily Wire reported that Admiral Donnelly had allowed drag performances on the aircraft carrier.

Navy officials said the article belied what had actually happened: One sailor in drag performed during a talent show on the carrier. Admiral Donnelly was in Singapore at the time.
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JFC

The article shows a picture of VADM Joyner. She was retired beginning of October. One of my students back in Beeville late last century. Of course the www.navy.mil leadership page for her says she is still chugging in her job in the J8.

 
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