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Road to 350: What Does the US Navy Do Anyway?

Gatordev

Gatordev

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Brett327 said:
Most people can't afford to live on Kauai on a GS-12 salary, assuming they can even find a house for their family there.
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A lot of people think HI is the dream place to work and live but there are so many sacrifices one has to make that it actually culls the herd pretty quickly...more than I understood at the time I was trying to do everything in my power to get out there. Even removing pay or housing from the equation, distance from family, especially when kids are involved, becomes a huge sacrifice for many people that they're not willing to make.
 
sevenhelmet

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Gatordev said:
I can't remember if I've mentioned this before, but we had a GS12 position open and what got filtered and eventually sent to me was a lot of loggies who knew exactly how to write for the algorithm but didn't really have anything on their resume that related to the actual job other than one specific qualification. One individual who did have all of the boxes checked got filtered out because he didn't bother to use the correct words on his resume (even though "someone" sat down with him and critiqued his resume before he sent it in, but he blew that off).

Just as you said, after several months of delays and government HR protocols, we finally got the job reposted and even got two additional resumes that were tangentially related in addition to the individual mentioned above. Thankfully the right person was eventually hired, but it certainly took longer than it should have*.

*Yes, I know there are hiring protections built into the system, and that's not a bad thing, but even with those the process takes the speed of the government to actually complete.
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Even in corporate America, we see this. All. The. Time. It's almost a given that a job listing will be incorrect in some fashion and need to be updated, or inadvertently filter out candidates who meet or exceed the hiring criteria. Exhibit A, I am 1 for 6 on successful job applications with my current employer. Have had HR reach out to say "We think you are ideally matched internal candidate for XYZ position", so I apply, and then immediately receive an auto-generated "Thanks, but no thanks." email. Meanwhile the hiring manger is clueless that anyone ever applied or was matched to the position.

It's mind-boggling.
 
Lawman

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sevenhelmet said:
Even in corporate America, we see this. All. The. Time. It's almost a given that a job listing will be incorrect in some fashion and need to be updated, or inadvertently filter out candidates who meet or exceed the hiring criteria. Exhibit A, I am 1 for 6 on successful job applications with my current employer. Have had HR reach out to say "We think you are ideally matched internal candidate for XYZ position", so I apply, and then immediately receive an auto-generated "Thanks, but no thanks." email. Meanwhile the hiring manger is clueless that anyone ever applied or was matched to the position.

It's mind-boggling.
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There is an entire industry of “resume review” for this specific reason.

Guard guy in class with me was describing the practice of getting around the algorithm for working as a Fed Tech at the facility to include little tricks like copy paste the exact job title and description into you resume in tiny font and then have the letters white so a human eye can’t see them.
 
Griz882

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Lawman said:
Guard guy in class with me was describing the practice of getting around the algorithm for working as a Fed Tech at the facility to include little tricks like copy paste the exact job title and description into you resume in tiny font and then have the letters white so a human eye can’t see them.
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You don’t even need to be that sneaky. I tell rookies to cut-and-paste each job requirement and reword it as a positive in a job you’ve done before; thus, “Supervises, plans, directs, and revises the Joint History and Research Office's writing program.” becomes, “In this position I supervised x number of employees, developed short and long range plans, and revised our historical writing plan as needed to fulfill the mission.”

Of course, you need to be at the highest level of competence if the application calls for a competency survey, but that is done by checking “I am considered an expert in this field…” button and then justifying your selection with similar language as above…but I like the dirty trick of slipping in the job title and description!
 
BigRed389

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Lawman said:
There is an entire industry of “resume review” for this specific reason.

Guard guy in class with me was describing the practice of getting around the algorithm for working as a Fed Tech at the facility to include little tricks like copy paste the exact job title and description into you resume in tiny font and then have the letters white so a human eye can’t see them.
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Oh FFS. You’d think OPM would have already updated their resume screening systems to use AI instead of outdated algorithms. This is literally LLM work.

DOGE - fucking get on it.
 
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