He did his time as required, I knew him decently well and he did not show any......
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Rumsfeld flew......?
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He did his time as required, I knew him decently well and he did not show any......
I love the STOOF ... don't ask me why, it's just a great, if slow, ol' airplane.Check out a Fighter/Attack varient, STOOF -
Old airplane/old joke:
Question: What's a "STOOF"??
Answer: Two T-28's flying formation on a Dempsey Dumpster ....
Check out a Fighter/Attack varient, STOOF -
AGM-12B Bullpup-A perhaps?
Correct-O ... Bullpup.
And if that wouldn't do it, they could always "blind" the bad guys with the 70+million candlepower searchlight on the starboard wing ...
Isn't this a beautiful picture? A S-2A Tracker is about to land aboard the USS Leyte under the watchful eye of the LSO.
Photo: US Navy
This just clicked in on my radar screen ... am I missing something here?? Was this information on the documentary???..... at the end of his three years they offered him (Rumsfeld) and all of his flight school buddies a (jet) transition..... but they had to do a tour in Vietnam. .... he said that almost every one of his buddies who took the offer ended up getting shot down over Vietnam. He had no regrets........
A tour in Vietnam?? At the "end of his 3 years", i.e. circa 1957??? Who with --- the French???
Oh, wait ... that won't work, either .... plus, the "offer" of a jet transition puts to rest the question of whether or not he flew "jets" on active duty. Mebbe Panthers as a STUD -- I'm not going to check --- but that's it.
This just clicked in on my radar screen ... am I missing something here?? Was this information on the documentary???
A tour in Vietnam?? At the "end of his 3 years", i.e. circa 1957??? Who with --- the French???
Oh, wait ... that won't work, either .... plus, the "offer" of a jet transition puts to rest the question of whether or not he flew "jets" on active duty. Mebbe Panthers as a STUD -- I'm not going to check --- but that's it.
No, I was talking about my buddies dad, not Rumsfeld. Sorry for not making it clear.......
As for the three years of active duty, I think it was pretty standard at that time. A buddy of mine from flight school had a dad who flew P-2's out of Puerto Rico and was only in for 3 years, '61-'64.
An interesting side note to that, at the end of his [buddy's dad] three years they offered him and all of his flight school buddies a transiton to any jet they wanted, but they had to do a tour in Vietnam. He had an offer from Delta and turned it down, he [buddy's dad] said that almost every one of his buddies who took the offer ended up getting shot down over Vietnam. He had no regrets........
I've got a retired Stoof buddy (commissioned in '58) who says he believes Rumsfeld was a plowback and flew out of Glenview or Grosse Ille. Also, he may not have even gone to the boat for a deployment. Platform transitions and 3 year stints were totally the norm. I'll post when I get more verifiable info...
As a side note I told him about the current 7-8 year commitments after winging and the old guys were intigued to say the least.
As a side note I told him about the current 7-8 year commitments after winging and the old guys were intigued to say the least.
I think that is correct, also ... can't remember when or where I heard/saw it -- but the plowback thing sticks in my mind re: Rumsfeld.
Ehhh, what is a 'plowback'?
Oh, sweet Jesus ... have things changed THAT much ?????
PLOWBACK
–noun
1. a reinvestment of earnings or new profits in a business enterprise ......
Or .... in US Naval Aviation parlance -- reinvesting a newly minted Aviator in the process of making new Aviators .... i.e., someone gets his Wings -- he does NOT go to the Fleet, he DOES collect $200, and he (and now "she") becomes an NAVAIRTRACOM Instructor of some kind or another ....
MasterBates
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Called SERGRADS now for those still confuddled.
WishICouldFly
UO Future Pork Chop
It seems like Donald Rumsfeld has taken his military experience to a new level...