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NEWS Russia building barracks at Syrian airport

Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
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Looks like a Turkish F-16 pilot is painting a Russian star underneath his canopy this morning.....

Eh? Is there any reporting more reliable than Brit tabloids that actually say that happened? I would hate to denigrate newspapers that have British us years of Page 3 girls and the latest Royal scandals but this is the real world.
 

ChuckMK23

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Eh? Is there any reporting more reliable than Brit tabloids that actually say that happened? I would hate to denigrate newspapers that have British us years of Page 3 girls and the latest Royal scandals but this is the real world.
Agreed - this is hasty reporting via Twitterverse
 

Randy Daytona

Cold War Relic
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Eh? Is there any reporting more reliable than Brit tabloids that actually say that happened? I would hate to denigrate newspapers that have British us years of Page 3 girls and the latest Royal scandals but this is the real world.

Never, EVER denigrate The Sun and Page 3 which gave us Michelle Marsh, Keeley Hazell and Lucy Pinder. If only American papers had such in-depth and completely natural reporting.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/

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Uncle Fester

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I don't think the Russians are sporty enough to deliberately bump heads with a NATO member. Shoring up Assad couldn't possibly be worth the risk. Having said that: the Russians haven't done any real theater air control in decades - their live-fire exercises in Georgia and the Crimea notwithstanding. Spillovers into Turkish airspace would be very bad. The Turkish military is feeling very grouchy with Erdogan's government, the problems with the Kurds, Syrian refugees, etc....they're in no mood to de-escalate or look the other way for incursions, deliberate or not.
 

Randy Daytona

Cold War Relic
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I don't think the Russians are sporty enough to deliberately bump heads with a NATO member. Shoring up Assad couldn't possibly be worth the risk. Having said that: the Russians haven't done any real theater air control in decades - their live-fire exercises in Georgia and the Crimea notwithstanding. Spillovers into Turkish airspace would be very bad. The Turkish military is feeling very grouchy with Erdogan's government, the problems with the Kurds, Syrian refugees, etc....they're in no mood to de-escalate or look the other way for incursions, deliberate or not.

I hope I am wrong but I disagree - you will see something "happen" between Russia and Turkey. Russia has a limited window to accomplish its objectives due to a demographic implosion and a loss of leverage as Europe diversifies its energy supplies. Meanwhile on our side, Turkey is in convulsions. A number of NATO countries have public opinion polls showing they will not support NATO mutual defense treaty obligations. Europe is unraveling with massive migrations into Europe infuriating member countries as their national sovereignty is over-ridden by Brussels / Berlin. Finally we are focused on Asia internationally while domestically reaching levels of political hostility among ourselves not seen since perhaps the 1860's. Russia will act out of weakness, the sound of a clock ticking and a sense of division in the West.

Again, I hope I am wrong but this is starting to feel like the summer of 1914.
 

jmcquate

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Again, I hope I am wrong but this is starting to feel like the summer of 1914.
This won't be the "Guns of August". Nuclear weapons have keep us from that for 70 years, and they still will...........but that doesn't mean that things won't get weird. The Turks and Greeks have gotten sporty with air to air, and I have no faith in the discipline of Russian or Turkish pilots.
 
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