for a complete AR-15 rifles or lowers Colt 6920, LMT, Aero, BCM are all good to go.
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I have an M400 Tread, and apart from the name it's a great piece of gear.
Looking to get a red dot or holo sight plus magnifier combo for my 14.5” DD M4. Admittedly the EOTech variety and product naming conventions are a bit confusing. Also tough to get honest opinions if EOTech is worth the price over clone brand optics. Looking for advice, open to suggestions!
Something like this:
www.eotechinc.com
Something like this:
EOTECH HHS™ II
The Holographic Hybrid Sight II EXPS-2 with G33.STS Magnifier (HHS II) from EOTECH transitions quickly from short-range to long-range shooting.
www.eotechinc.com
EOTECH has amazing products. No doubt. Have you considered Primary Arms? High quality and much more affordable.Looking to get a red dot or holo sight plus magnifier combo for my 14.5” DD M4. Admittedly the EOTech variety and product naming conventions are a bit confusing. Also tough to get honest opinions if EOTech is worth the price over clone brand optics. Looking for advice, open to suggestions!
Something like this:
EOTECH HHS™ II
The Holographic Hybrid Sight II EXPS-2 with G33.STS Magnifier (HHS II) from EOTECH transitions quickly from short-range to long-range shooting.
I checked their website. Looks like they sell EOTech at roughly market prices. Didn’t see any holo sights they make themselves.
You can sign up for the military discount for Primary Arms and it's pretty worthwhile. PA also has a ton of optics under their own brand name.
@Hair Warrior would highly recommend their etched reticle prism sights in 1x, 3x, and 5x. They also manufacture their own 3x magnifier!!
The naming conventions are a bit weird until you break them down.
XPS: Sits at absolute co-witness height
EXPS: Sits at 1/3 co-witness height
2-x: Does not have NV brightness settings
3-x: Has NV settings.
Pros: Big window to look through, circle-dot can be very fast for closer targets, 1 MOA dot can be good for longer shots, holographic image might be better for those with astigmatisms.
Cons: Big and heavy (relative to a smaller Aimpont-type optic), shorter battery life if left on (they may have shake-awake now...I can't remember), can have delamination issues on the glass (but optic will still function fine).
XPS: Sits at absolute co-witness height
EXPS: Sits at 1/3 co-witness height
2-x: Does not have NV brightness settings
3-x: Has NV settings.
Pros: Big window to look through, circle-dot can be very fast for closer targets, 1 MOA dot can be good for longer shots, holographic image might be better for those with astigmatisms.
Cons: Big and heavy (relative to a smaller Aimpont-type optic), shorter battery life if left on (they may have shake-awake now...I can't remember), can have delamination issues on the glass (but optic will still function fine).
Thanks for the tips. Probably going to go with either the EOTech HHS II, V, or VI. Putting on a clone of the M4 that I did a lot of training with.
I bought the HHS V.
Reason: Tim the Toolman Taylor’s favorite phrase, except with magnification.
Reason: Tim the Toolman Taylor’s favorite phrase, except with magnification.
I'll second the recommendation for Primary Arms. Their full size red dot (MD-25, IIRC) is great. They also have good deals on everything gun related.
One thing that's always put me off with EOTechs is their short battery life and the parasitic drain of the holographic system (A physical limitation of all holographic systems). If you want similar red dot with a large window for use under NVGs, I highly recommend the Sig Romeo 8T: https://www.sigsauer.com/romeo8t-1x38-mm.htmlLooking to get a red dot or holo sight plus magnifier combo for my 14.5” DD M4. Admittedly the EOTech variety and product naming conventions are a bit confusing. Also tough to get honest opinions if EOTech is worth the price over clone brand optics. Looking for advice, open to suggestions!
Something like this:
EOTECH HHS™ II
The Holographic Hybrid Sight II EXPS-2 with G33.STS Magnifier (HHS II) from EOTECH transitions quickly from short-range to long-range shooting.
Hmmm… maybe a UTM round? They’re like tiny paintballs. Not sure if they come in .45, but they do come in 9 and 5.56, with special bolts to prevent accidentally chambering a live (as in lethal) round. I took a UTM in the arm during a force-on-force training class once, and while I’m obviously not a golfer, my stick and rudder game has been unaffected. It stung a little though. Lesson learned.
Although if you’re gonna try it, you’d better do it soon. ATF recently “outlawed” UTMs for civilian purchase. Evidently non-lethal training rounds are too much for the hoi polloi to handle. Civilian stocks are dwindling.
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I'd recommend you start with small caliber bullets first (.17 air rifle and then .22 short, etc.) and build up an immunity. Don't be that guy that jumps right into .45 rounds off the bat.