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Selected EP-3's ... now what?

scoolbubba

Brett327 gargles ballsacks
pilot
Contributor
Come on now...VP guys normally have to at least check-in to a fleet squadron before the "love" starts to flow.

It must have taken me a good 5 days after I got to VQ-2 (the Spain version of VQ-2, no less) before I started to say things like "those freakin' VP guys have no clue".:icon_tong

Makin' fun of the ugly P-3 (what a weird thing to say?) drivers is actually one of the Fam Fundamentals for straight stick guys here at the FRS.
 

xj220

Will fly for food.
pilot
Contributor
Come on now...VP guys normally have to at least check-in to a fleet squadron before the "love" starts to flow.

It must have taken me a good 5 days after I got to VQ-2 (the Spain version of VQ-2, no less) before I started to say things like "those freakin' VP guys have no clue".:icon_tong

For me it's always "the damn VQ guys are always running their APUs or turning when we're doing fod walkdown."
 

Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
It was my understanding that Advanced SERE was just more of the survival and evasion stuff. More cool camping knowledges, and NOT any more of the resistance or escape stuff. I thought it was actually kind of a cool experience to go.

Anyone else got any knowledges that they are allowed to share about advanced SERE?

From what little I know there are different types of advanced SERE including one that is more involved with E&E stuff, I knew one or two guys who went a while ago. The one EP-3 guys go to is different, and what it covered is really not something that can be shared here. I can tell you it is very good training and is very educational, just like regular SERE. It was a 'nice to have' when I went through it, I think with P3 FO if memory serves me correctly, but I am not surprised it is a requirement now.
 

N83

New Member
It was my understanding that Advanced SERE was just more of the survival and evasion stuff. More cool camping knowledges, and NOT any more of the resistance or escape stuff. I thought it was actually kind of a cool experience to go.

Anyone else got any knowledges that they are allowed to share about advanced SERE?

Advanced SERE has nothing to do with survival. Where as "regular" SERE is prepping for going down in a hostile country, Advanced SERE is for Peacetime/Governmental Detention. It's a couple weeks long and is all class room stuff (but that doesn't make it easy ;) )
 

rondebmar

Ron "Banty" Marron
pilot
Contributor
Advanced SERE has nothing to do with survival. Where as "regular" SERE is prepping for going down in a hostile country, Advanced SERE is for Peacetime/Governmental Detention. It's a couple weeks long and is all class room stuff (but that doesn't make it easy ;) )

Now that's some funny stuff...almost made my head explode!

About six years after the event (flight leader and I illegally detained incommunicado by a foreign, and not so friendly power...prior to our escape) we were solicited by the leader of a group of USN types charged with briefing folks en route to that part of the world to meet with them for an extensive, ten hour debrief...taped in its entirety. We agreed, and it was a done deal...P-3 with about fifteen men aboard landed at a nearby NAS, and for ten hours our brains were picked. Entire event (incarceration/escape) was covered in great detail...maybe some of our actions/observations/thought processes were a part of the new SERE stuff? LOL!

Shortly thereafter, rx'd a nice letter of thanks from the group's leader...included thanks and kudos for a very personal two hour tape I made shortly after return, and offered...

Also, of course, by simple coincidence, like the previous poster, I was aircrew (E4 & 5) with VQ-2 Rota...no SERE then. :icon_tong
 

helolumpy

Apprentice School Principal
pilot
Contributor
If he flies in the EP-3 then he'll have half as much chance to get an air-to-air kill than if he went Hornets....

F-18 - 2 kills
EP-3 - 1 kill
 

Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
Advanced SERE has nothing to do with survival. Where as "regular" SERE is prepping for going down in a hostile country, Advanced SERE is for Peacetime/Governmental Detention. It's a couple weeks long and is all class room stuff (but that doesn't make it easy ;) )

I am pretty certain there is more than one advanced SERE, including advanced E&E courses.
 

N83

New Member
I am pretty certain there is more than one advanced SERE, including advanced E&E courses.

While I don't doubt that's an accurate statement, do they include anything else for the EP-3 folks? When I was at the Q we all did basic SERE en route (class C?) and then eventually had to go to Spokane for "Advanced." I was just curious because I never heard about any other supplements while I was there. Maybe they were optional and people chose not to go, haha.
 

Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
While I don't doubt that's an accurate statement, do they include anything else for the EP-3 folks? When I was at the Q we all did basic SERE en route (class C?) and then eventually had to go to Spokane for "Advanced." I was just curious because I never heard about any other supplements while I was there. Maybe they were optional and people chose not to go, haha.

They didn't send anyone to anything else when I was there.
 

rookie7734

Member
None
Here's an update. My son is now at NAS Brunswick for two weeks of SERE. After that he goes to Fairchild AFB for one more week of advanced SERE. Then on to VQ-2 in Whidbey. I have not heard from him since he left on Sunday. I'm sure he is being "well taken care of".
 
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