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Max the Mad Russian

Hands off Ukraine! Feet too
Baltic states (traditional sense, i.e. Germany & Denmark of NATO and neutral Sweden too), Norway to the north, and Turkish Black Sea shore as well. Main aim was to provide the tactical landings at the areas from where the Soviet Marines on tanks and APCs could get the NATO and Swedish airfields, just it turn to use them as Soviet Air Force bases. This is how the navy without aircraft carriers should fuck around to provide the air cover for land and sea ops:p

Most of them (30+ were built) had been homeported in Baltic and Black seas.
 

HAL Pilot

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Is the Master Merchant Mariner Lic compulsory? If so, what Army training installation provides it?
No. A civilian license is not required for any military commanding any military ship just like you don’t require a civilian pilot license as a military pilot flying a military aircraft.

These Army ships are commanded and crewed by Army personnel. The Army also has lesser landing craft, small craft and tugboats. All crewed by Army personnel.

The Army does run their maritime operations using a licensing type process but it is an internal license / qualification and not a civilian license.

There some Army mariners who were former Navy or Coast Guard but then there are Navy Sailors who are former Army too.

Here is a little about the Army’s training.

 

Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
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The wreck of U.S.S. Nevada, pictured here under recovery after the Pearl Harbor attack, has been found!

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The link is here....

She had a remarkable history. After an unremarkable WWI career she was hit on December 7, 1941 but was rebuilt and can back with a vengeance. She served at Normandy where her aircrew (OS2U Kingfisher’s of VOS-7) flew Spitfires over the D-Day beaches calling in naval gunfire. after that she participated in the Iwo Jima landings and had a host of other duties. After the war she was sunk during Operation Crossroads.
 

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The wreck of U.S.S. Nevada, pictured here under recovery after the Pearl Harbor attack, has been found!

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The link is here....

She had a remarkable history. After an unremarkable WWI career she was hit on December 7, 1941 but was rebuilt and can back with a vengeance. She served at Normandy where her aircrew (OS2U Kingfisher’s of VOS-7) flew Spitfires over the D-Day beaches calling in naval gunfire. after that she participated in the Iwo Jima landings and had a host of other duties. After the war she was sunk during Operation Crossroads.
Her appearance as an A-Bomb target
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Gatordev

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So were the target ships still commissioned when they were "attacked?" I would have thought they wouldn't have been.
 

Randy Daytona

Cold War Relic
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So were the target ships still commissioned when they were "attacked?" I would have thought they wouldn't have been.

Good question- I would have guessed the same. The Navy Historical website states the Nevada arrived at Bikini atoll on 31 May 1946, survived airburst Able on 01 July, survived underwater Baker on 25 July and returned to Pearl to be decommissioned on 29 August. She was finally sunk after 5 days of gunfire, bombs and torpedoes on 31 July 1948.
 

Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
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So were the target ships still commissioned when they were "attacked?" I would have thought they wouldn't have been.
I did some research. There were 28 ships at the tests that were still in commissioned status, including the Nevada. The reason is complex but essentially the Air Force wanted to load them up with nothing but fuel and ammo watch them blow up like a bunch of kids. The Navy wanted to see the impact on the ships and measure the ability to repair them after an atomic attack. Wrapped around all of that was a substantial outcry about destroying so much valuable material (New York demanded they be given the USS New York for a museum). If the Navy decommissioned the ships they would be “worthless” as military property so both the Air Force and civilian could potentially get their way. The answer...leave them in commissioned service. Of the 88 ships there some were captured after WWII (a few Japanese and German ships went down there) and the others surplussed excess. As noted above, 28 remained commissioned. All the ships carried wartime loads of fuel and ammo but not the excessive loads desired by the AF.

An interesting side note was the effort to ensure all historical material was removed from the ships. Ship’s silver, bells, plaques and similar items were removed. In the end most of the ships survived, at some level, the blasts but the radioactivity was lasting. Also, it wasn’t too healthy for some goats.
 
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