Pretty sure Ospreys or CH-53Ks with external loads marauding over metro DC is a non-starter.
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NEWS Site for new National Museum of the US Navy announced
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Lifted off and replaced in 1993.
Not trying to threadjack, but the CRM of these 60's era technology CH-54s long-lining stuff like this is impressive. I'm guessing their 'crewchiefs' are the receivers on the ground for the payload giving them constant feedback. Dunno, never done it.
It is impressive. The CH-64 shown above has a “loadmaster” seat to manage the lift, lower and placement. I’ve always wondered if the job was filled by a third pilot or a specially trained crew member.
I agree the CRM must be exceptional…kind of like the coordination need to build a national scale museum! 😉
I think that the Navy retains some sort of 'ownership' of many museum vessels if not the ability to take them back, they threatened to take back the USS Olympia a few years ago if she wasn't fixed. I know they still own most if not all of the aircraft in museums, a guy in my reserve unit was hired to oversee of the program that kept track of them and the inspectors who were being hired to inspect them. The guy was a bit special, but at least he was detail oriented and couldn't wreck anything since they couldn't move any more.
I knew about the DoD museums retaining ownership of aircraft - I have a vague memory that it’s actually some sort of ITAR thing, at least for more modern a/c. I’ve tried to understand more about the Museum Hold process for ships but I still don’t really get it. I know DOT/MARAD is involved in it somehow.
Olympia should be a cautionary tale for every city council that gets all starry-eyed thinking they can get a carrier or whatever as their next big tourist draw. They get sticker shock real quick when they learn how much it costs to keep an old ship afloat indefinitely. Boston tried for years to get JFK but never could get a committed funding stream big-reliable enough to convince the Navy.
Anyway, it would be cool if they could get a museum ship for the NMUSN someday, maybe moored in an “annex” somewhere down-river near Old Town Alexandria or whatever. One of the Ticos, seeing as they’re in the process of going away, or Arleigh Burke whenever she decomms. I know it’s not going to happen, but…kinda lame that the Navy Museum won’t ever have an actual, you know, Navy warship.
All formerly commissioned USN vessels have to be returned to the navy if no longer needed for exhibit. The best way to think of it is that every vessel is a “vessel of artifacts.” Any ship built since WWI shares a great deal of common components, so before a ship is broken up it is stripped of usable parts and those are available for other museums
Great Bond villain move
Hopefully a skipper did the right thing and gave that mission to the rock-star JOs and NCOs.
Didn't they do it again about 10 years ago during a dome renovation?
I think the last restoration was done in place but I could be wrong.
Went down a wikipedia rabbit hole and looks like ANG retired the type in January, and it was an Erickson job.
Erickson Air-Crane
In the early 1970s, logger Jack Erickson was pioneering a new way to transport logs out of forests—carrying them out by helicopter. Using a leased Sikorsky S-6…
www.oregonencyclopedia.org
Also, according to wikipedia FWIW, the loadmaster had flight controls with 10% authority. Wild.
Edit: you can even watch it on CSPAN:
I wonder if it'd be feasible to get Olympia under the Douglass bridge? Seeing as Philly has been trying to get rid of her and she'd need USG deep pockets to get her fully restored. The bridge has a clearance of about 44 feet at low slack water...you'd need to step the masts and probably remove the funnels, obviously, but just eyeballing it....maybe?
Towing would be from Philly to DC via the Delaware, C&D, Chesapeake, and Potomac so no open water transits. Wouldn't be cheap, but seems technically feasible to me.
Towing would be from Philly to DC via the Delaware, C&D, Chesapeake, and Potomac so no open water transits. Wouldn't be cheap, but seems technically feasible to me.