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Ski Jump

phrogdriver

More humble than you would understand
pilot
Super Moderator
Another question...

Are Amphibs consistantly underway and therefor "making wind" during Air Ops? Given they have the whole well deck side of their operations I was curious as to the Air Boss being able to consitantly count on wind across the deck.

Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

They usually make wind for the Harriers, because they have a narrower wind envelope and it adds a margin to their generally tight takeoff and landing power margins.

For everyone else, it depends. They will if they can, but often the only make steerage, maybe 3-4 knots. Sometimes they're "on the hook," (when they party though, they're "off the hook") or at anchor during flight ops.

When the ARG is on the move, often they're moving too fast for winds or in the wrong direction. The air plan can get complicated then, because they'll plan to go off course just long enough to get winds for flight ops, then resume course. They steer for winds again when one lands.

Well deck ops usually work around flight ops, vice the reverse, unless there's a big surface offload. The ship turns to accommodate the LCAC, pausing flight ops, then resumes once the well deck is done with recovering/deploying.
 

phrogdriver

More humble than you would understand
pilot
Super Moderator
You guys actually landed chinese on an LHD?

Never actually seen it done.

I don't think NATOPS actually has wind limit charts for it.
 

bert

Enjoying the real world
pilot
Contributor
You guys actually landed chinese on an LHD?

Never actually seen it done.

I don't think NATOPS actually has wind limit charts for it.

They don't - you have to use the general envelope which is generally restrictive enough not to help.

The Belleau Wood/Essex used to screw this up every Cobra Gold by anchoring in a current that left them with quartering tail winds.
 

Pags

N/A
pilot
You guys actually landed chinese on an LHD?

Never actually seen it done.

I don't think NATOPS actually has wind limit charts for it.

I've never done it (not much of a boat guy), but have had squadron mates do it on both an LHD and an LPD that was on the hook.

On the subject on wind limits, while conrepping with the carrier, I've been told that the winds were out of limits (too high) for the carrier and to go to the AE for gas. I didn't even bother to check what the limits were for the AE since I needed the gas.
 

RotorHead04

Patch Mafia
pilot
You guys actually landed chinese on an LHD?

Never actually seen it done.

I don't think NATOPS actually has wind limit charts for it.

We did it while you were out there on the Big 5! :icon_tong It became necessary in NYC during that Gone Country filming since we were moored to the pier and then again a few times during the long float when we were VERTREPing. Honestly, it's not that big of a deal ... doing it on Spot 9 looked almost identical to landing normally on Spot 1 or 3.
 

phrogdriver

More humble than you would understand
pilot
Super Moderator
I didn't do the NYC det, and I usually catch up on sleep while you do that VERTREP business.
 

phrogdriver

More humble than you would understand
pilot
Super Moderator
No, more like under the tramline. The Navy puts theirs more amidships. Funny how that works...
 

Junkball

"I believe in ammunition"
pilot
This kind of ski jump?

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Success

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Failure (that one hurt)
 
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