SNA Chances?

[Swanee]

OCS is a [Insert your favorite Designator] or no go at all, with ROTC you're at the mercy of the Navy's needs and it is dependent on how well you do in college. if you wanted to go Navy for pilot, I would recommend OCS. If you wanted to go AF for pilot, I would recommend ROTC, Academy if you can get in, but if you go this route you will need to be on top of your school work and ROTC work like white on rice. go to the ANG.

FIFY.

 

[wallythenycat]

So, basically if I got the OCS route, I could turn down going to OCS if the officer recruiter tells me that all we have available for you is SWO?

But, with ROTC, even if I don't take scholarship money, I am stuck with SWO even if I don't want it?

And, is anyone ever happy in SWO who wanted SNA, SNFO, or NSW first?

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

So, basically if I got the OCS route, I could turn down going to OCS if the officer recruiter tells me that all we have available for you is SWO?

But, with ROTC, even if I don't take scholarship money, I am stuck with SWO even if I don't want it?

And, is anyone ever happy in SWO who wanted SNA, SNFO, or NSW first?

Why would you do ROTC and not reap the benefits of a full ride scholarship?

If you only want to serve as an aviator just go the OCS route. For OCS you only apply for the job/s you’re interested in.

 

[wallythenycat]

I appreciate your responses. Mr/Ms. Guru.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't a scholarship recipient incur a longer active duty service obligation than a non-scholarship college programmer?

Doesn't the OCS route provide an applicant with multiple options in case your first choice is not available. but perhaps the second or third choice may also be appealing?

Thank you.

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

I appreciate your responses. Mr/Ms. Guru.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't a scholarship recipient incur a longer active duty service obligation than a non-scholarship college programmer?

Doesn't the OCS route provide an applicant with multiple options in case your first choice is not available. but perhaps the second or third choice may also be appealing?

Thank you.

Advanced standing is a 3-ish year obligation on paper, but very likely you won't be able to resign until you're at the 4-5 year mark depending on your assignments. That's pretty much on par with NROTC obligations (5 years). Naval Aviation is still 8 years post-winging regardless if you're a NROTC scholarship recipient or not.

NROTC is good for someone who needs help with funding college and/or wants to serve Navy. OCS is good for someone who doesn't have a NROTC program, has college taken care of financially, and/or wants to serve a specific job/s as an officer.

There is no "better" program between OCS and NROTC, each have their ups and downs.

Being that you're 21 and probably have college credits under your belt, you may not even be eligible for NROTC/Advanced Standing which makes the NROTC research a moot point.

 

[ea6bflyr]

Please correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't a scholarship recipient incur a longer active duty service obligation than a non-scholarship college programmer?

You are wrong. Commitments are driven by designator. SWO: 4 years. Nuke: 5 years. Aviation: NFO: 6 years AFTER winging, Pilot: 8 years AFTER winging.

Additionally, Everyone in their Junior year at NROTC, is either on scholarship or advanced standing. College Programmers are non-scholarship student (Freshman & Sophomore) trying to get a scholarship or advanced standing

Doesn't the OCS route provide an applicant with multiple options in case your first choice is not available. but perhaps the second or third choice may also be appealing?

Yes, you can apply for many designators. NSW is extremely difficult to get into via OCS and NROTC, with a few exceptions (Previous enlisted NSW experience). During my time at the NROTC, I had 3 of my students get NSW. 2 made it, 1 rang the bell. If NSW isn’t your first choice, then you will not get selected.

 

[AllAmerican75]

You are wrong. Commitments are driven by designator. SWO: 4 years. Nuke: 5 years. Aviation: NFO: 6 years AFTER winging, Pilot: 8 years AFTER winging.

Additionally, Everyone in their Junior year at NROTC, is either on scholarship or advanced standing. College Programmers are non-scholarship student (Freshman & Sophomore) trying to get a scholarship or advanced standing


Yes, you can apply for many designators. NSW is extremely difficult to get into via OCS and NROTC, with a few exceptions (Previous enlisted NSW experience). During my time at the NROTC, I had 3 of my students get NSW. 2 made it, 1 rang the bell. If NSW isn’t your first choice, then you will not get selected.

If you do not eat, sleep, breath, and dream about being a SEAL, then you will NOT make it into NSW. There are far too few slots, many who would like to be SEALs, and the NSW community does a very good job of weeding people out both before, during, and after BUD/S.

 

[wallythenycat]

"Pilot: 8 years AFTER winging."

So, basically 10 years after commissioning if you get SNA and jets?

 

[villo0692]

"Pilot: 8 years AFTER winging."

So, basically 10 years after commissioning if you get SNA and jets?

8 years after you get your wings, however long that takes. For the jets pipeline with how backed up it is, could take almost 4 years to get your wings, only THEN your 8 yrs start, so close to 12. Other pipelines might be shorter, like Helos or P8s are the shortest ones

 

[ea6bflyr]

"Pilot: 8 years AFTER winging."

So, basically 10 years after commissioning if you get SNA and jets?

And now you know why some people elect to become a SWO. Commitment issues. ??

 

[wallythenycat]

And now you know why some people elect to become a SWO. Commitment issues. ??

And now you know why some people elect to become a SWO. Commitment issues. ??

LOL..fair enough!

 

[wallythenycat]

8 years after you get your wings, however long that takes. For the jets pipeline with how backed up it is, could take almost 4 years to get your wings, only THEN your 8 yrs start, so close to 12. Other pipelines might be shorter, like Helos or P8s are the shortest ones

Wow..4 years to wings? Is a student actually flying during those 4 years? If not, what tasks/duties is one doing during those 4 years?

I guess the aviator route is really for those who want to be lifers or at least do 20 years.

 

[sevenhelmet]

And now you know why some people elect to become a SWO. Commitment issues. ??

For SWO? I thought that was called "masochism".

 

[Swanee]

Wow..4 years to wings? Is a student actually flying during those 4 years? If not, what tasks/duties is one doing during those 4 years?

I guess the aviator route is really for those who want to be lifers or at least do 20 years.

You live the life of a flight school student- it's kind of like being in college again, except you're getting paid to be there. Some people get jobs while they're not in a class, but once you start a phase of flight school you're sole focus is to learn to be a good aviator.

And no, there are plenty of aviators who get out at the end of their commitment and do other things in life. Some go to the airlines, some go to graduate school, law school, med school, so go back to the family business, some stop flying altogether. This may blow your mind as you're trying to get into the club, but there are a lot of folks who are happy and ready to leave when their commitment is up. What gets you in at 24 doesn't keep you in at 34.

 

[AllAmerican75]

8 years after you get your wings, however long that takes. For the jets pipeline with how backed up it is, could take almost 4 years to get your wings, only THEN your 8 yrs start, so close to 12. Other pipelines might be shorter, like Helos or P8s are the shortest ones

How do you hit all of the wickets necessary before your DH look with that kind of timeline?