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Sna gpa

scall04c

New Member
I just found out that my GPA for SNA is .05 below the minimum. Is there a waiver for GPAs I know there is a waiver for just about everything else? My recruiter gave me two options. One would be to put off my application until the next board meets in April and take another class or two to try and boost my GPA up a little. The second option he said would be to apply for something else like SWO or supply and make a lateral move to aviation after my first tour. Im at a loss because I don't know which route I should take, or which route is better for me. Any advice would help greatly.
 

twobecrazy

RTB...
Contributor
I just found out that my GPA for SNA is .05 below the minimum. Is there a waiver for GPAs I know there is a waiver for just about everything else? My recruiter gave me two options. One would be to put off my application until the next board meets in April and take another class or two to try and boost my GPA up a little. The second option he said would be to apply for something else like SWO or supply and make a lateral move to aviation after my first tour. Im at a loss because I don't know which route I should take, or which route is better for me. Any advice would help greatly.

How old are you?
 

Stalin

Well-Known Member
I'd go for the first option. Why wait a few years for a pilot slot when you can wait a few months and boost your GPA? Also, do a lot of other things to outshine your low GPA
 

m26

Well-Known Member
Contributor
If you want to fly, exhaust your options before moving on to something else. Never count on a lateral transfer, and only go in as something else if you think you can enjoy doing that job.

I was in a similar situation. Intel was my first choice, but wasn't available for a few months, so I skipped it altogether, since I liked my other three options nearly as much, and was more concerned with becoming a Naval Officer. If that's you, then go be a SWO/SuppO. If flying is substantially more appealing to you, don't throw the opportunity away because of impatience.
 

scall04c

New Member
two be crazy- I am 22. Just graduated college in May.

Flying is what I want to do. I wouldn't be very happy or even as motivated if I wasnt going to flight school after OCS. Are lateral transfers hard to do?
 

gparks1989

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
two be crazy- I am 22. Just graduated college in May.

Flying is what I want to do. I wouldn't be very happy or even as motivated if I wasnt going to flight school after OCS. Are lateral transfers hard to do?


Might want to reconsider this whole "Officer first" thingamajig....
 

SynixMan

Mobilizer Extraordinaire
pilot
Contributor
two be crazy- I am 22. Just graduated college in May.

Flying is what I want to do. I wouldn't be very happy or even as motivated if I wasnt going to flight school after OCS. Are lateral transfers hard to do?

You're best bet is to raise your GPA. Short of that, the minimums are the minimums. Flight slots are hard to get and the competition is tough. Even if you do raise you GPA to just above the minimum, you'd better hope the rest of your package is strong to make a difference.
 

scall04c

New Member
SynixMan this is the rest of my package

ASTB: 6/7/6 52
Embry Riddle Aeronautical University Alumnus
Major: BS in Aeronautical Science w/ a minor in Business Administration
GPA: 2.45
Flight Ratings: Multi-Engine Commercial Instrument w/ 210 flight hours
Extra Curricular Activity: Member of- a Fraternity(were I ran an event and raised over $3,000 for the Children's Miracle Network, I was in charge of >300 people), multiple sports, multiple clubs, coached YMCA soccer team '04
Leadership: Captained Varsity soccer team my senior year in HS, Captained my JV soccer team Sophomore year in HS, multiple positions held with Fraternity and most of the clubs
Awards: Coaches Award (exemplified leadership ability in HS Soccer), Lions scholar for High School Leadership
Attended Upset Training and Recovery program at NASTAR in Philadelphia
LORs- 1 O-8(JAG Officer), 1 O-6(F-18 Pilot), 1 O-4(Air Force C-141 Pilot) 1 O-3(Marine Harrier Pilot), 2 O-2(Navy Pilot and Army Pilot), 1 retired Army Pilot and 1 current Army Pilot (both neighbors unsure of ranking), COO of NASTAR Research
 

eas7888

Looking forward to some P-8 action
pilot
Contributor
SynixMan this is the rest of my package

ASTB: 6/7/6 52
Embry Riddle Aeronautical University Alumnus
Major: BS in Aeronautical Science w/ a minor in Business Administration
GPA: 2.45
Flight Ratings: Multi-Engine Commercial Instrument w/ 210 flight hours
Extra Curricular Activity: Member of- a Fraternity(were I ran an event and raised over $3,000 for the Children's Miracle Network, I was in charge of >300 people), multiple sports, multiple clubs, coached YMCA soccer team '04
Leadership: Captained Varsity soccer team my senior year in HS, Captained my JV soccer team Sophomore year in HS, multiple positions held with Fraternity and most of the clubs
Awards: Coaches Award (exemplified leadership ability in HS Soccer), Lions scholar for High School Leadership
Attended Upset Training and Recovery program at NASTAR in Philadelphia
LORs- 1 O-8(JAG Officer), 1 O-6(F-18 Pilot), 1 O-4(Air Force C-141 Pilot) 1 O-3(Marine Harrier Pilot), 2 O-2(Navy Pilot and Army Pilot), 1 retired Army Pilot and 1 current Army Pilot (both neighbors unsure of ranking), COO of NASTAR Research

I'll be honest, it doesn't seem like you were trying too hard in college. If you didn't apply yourself there, why should the Navy believe that you're going to be any better as a Naval officer? As mentioned before, if you feel like you've matured in your four years, get your masters, and do well in those courses. That will show the board that you've matured and are willing to work hard to get what you want.

Also, consider getting more involved in the community. Your extra curriculars seem a little lacking. I was able to do more with a wife, kid, working 30hrs per week, and maintaining over a 3.0 GPA.
 

scall04c

New Member
Your right eas7888 I wasnt planning on joining the Navy until recently otherwise I wouldve focussed more in school and done ROTC. If I go back and take a class or two to raise my GPA isnt that showing the Navy that I have initiative and desire to be a Naval Aviator instead of giving up because I missed the cut by .05? As far as extra curriculars go I didnt list every last thing here its just a brief overview of my app.. I ran out room on my app including all the extra space with e.c., awards, and community services.
 

ajalali

New Member
pilot
Take the class man! I would also consider re-studying the tits out of the ASTB material and retaking it...you have 210 hours TT and went to ERAU, there's no excuse for not doing well on the PFAR and the FOFAR! 6 7 6 52 is ok, but 8+ and a higher OAR might help offset your lackluster GPA a little bit. But hell, what do I know?
 

NTXRockr

Alive and kicking...sort of.
Best advice...retake any classes (if possible) that were terrible grades - such as C's, D's and F's - as that will not only boost your grade but eliminate the bad grade...a double-play in coursework. Other than that, it's kind of too little, too late - it's hard to fix 130+ hours of classes. Not to mention, there's hundreds of qualified applicants being turned away with much higher GPA's.

So try that, and as always if you apply you're guaranteed to not get in. Good luck!
 

Rukoo

New Member
Raising you're GPA .05 is nothing...even with 130+ credits. Works out to be probably 2 classes min. Ace them and you're good. The best advice I got from a mentor of mine ( Retired Commander ) "Never let anyone say that you can't" Do the classes and retake the ASTB, 7's+ to make up for the GPA. People have been selected with low GPAs. You need to exhaust everything you have to give up on a dream like this.

Good luck to you.
 

BigJeffray

Sans Remorse
pilot
I'm gonna add my two cents and agree with most people about taking some more classes to boost the gpa. Based on everything I've heard, lat transfers are an extreme rarity, so I wouldn't count on that as an Ace in the hole by any means. As it stands, pilot slots are very competitive, and your gpa is too low, so my advice is to do something about it, because no one is going to give this to you. Your future is in your hands, and you have to ability to give yourself as good a chance as anyone to make it where you want to be if you can boost the other areas of your application. I would also recommend retaking the ASTB, because as ajalali said, as a pilot with some time under your belt, you should be able to get 8s or 9s on the PFAR and FOFAR, which wouldn't hurt you. Good luck.
 

twobecrazy

RTB...
Contributor
As it stands, pilot slots are very competitive, and your gpa is too low, so my advice is to do something about it, because no one is going to give this to you. Your future is in your hands, and you have to ability to give yourself as good a chance as anyone to make it where you want to be if you can boost the other areas of your application. I would also recommend retaking the ASTB, because as ajalali said, as a pilot with some time under your belt, you should be able to get 8s or 9s on the PFAR and FOFAR, which wouldn't hurt you. Good luck.

People have been selected with lower ASTB scores RECENTLY and 2.6 GPAs with scores similar to his (check the September boards). Whole person obviously meant something recently.

To the OP: I agree with everyone else in just take the 2 or 3 classes you need to boost your GPA above the 2.5 mark then submit as fast as you can. If you are turned down make sure you have been studying for the ASTB and retake it as soon as you find out the results so you can re-submit your application quicker. Also work on doing volunteer work in the mean time when you get a chance. Good Luck!
 
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