Stupid Questions about Naval Aviation (Part 3)

[PatrolFighter]

Could be something akin to this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/a-map-showing-the-users-of-fitness-devices-lets-the-world-see-where-us-soldiers-are-and-what-they-are-doing/2018/01/28/86915662-0441-11e8-aa61-f3391373867e_story.html

Yes and no. I agree that there is much given up in that article. The same holds true for us. We are an airliner that puts weapons on for all intents and purposes wrt how we navigate and operate. There are some good things done on the high side to mitigate our imprint but websites like flight aware really hit us in the gut. I'm no SME on this stuff of course but I don't see how my iPad with a GPS puck is any worse than my civil nav gps, flight plan, radar contact, and adsb out transponder. We incur all the cons of that adsb with no "in" capability for real time weather and other admin stuff.

 

[PatrolFighter]

Just saw this. This may be yuge.

Boeing Acquires ForeFlight

Boeing [NYSE: BA] completed the acquisition of ForeFlight, a leading provider of innovative mobile and web-based aviation applications. ForeFlight has partnered with Boeing for the past two years...

boeing.mediaroom.com

 

[Jim123]

It's pretty easy to write an app that records audio and video and then beams it to [pick your country that wants to see the mission systems inside the tube] whenever the phone has connectivity. Make it do something else that is innocuous and ordinary, put it in the app store, and play the odds that some service member wants an app that does whatever that innocuous something else is. That's not exactly an effective way for the bad guys to gather intel, but I can't blame the cyber people for being paranoid about this one... same reason you shouldn't bring smartphones into the vault.

Naval air ought to have modern, company-provided PEDs to help navigate the airplane, and I know a lot of communities have been working on that. There's really no good reason to be stuck on 1980s technology when there is some really great commercial/consumer stuff available that puts all kinds of weather and nav information at your fingertips.

 

[BarryD]

This is more of a USNA thing....at least it did not happen in ROTC. Our unit had each person walk in and click their choice on the computer...once that choice was gone it wasn't available for the next person and it was all ROTC units picking at the same time. Order was based on GPA.

NROTC ship selection is a big operation now, with PERS-41 doing a live stream and all. It's pretty entertaining to see go down in person while simultaneously watching the live stream in the unit.

 

[Jim123]

Is there a board to pick for unit UPC coordinator?

And who knew there is a USS Snoop Dog based at Everett? Does that thing run on weed?

It'd be awesome if the JO jobs were on the backs of those cards too.

You pick USS Snoop Dogg before one of your fellow mids can grizab the bizillet, turn the card over hoping to get a badass job but find out you're gonna be the new Wizz-O. Fochizzle.

 

[Griz882]

And right there folks, we have illuminated the root cause of pilot retention. If only we would let mids pick not only their community, but actual squadrons as well. Geesh, this isn’t that hard people !!!

The whole part about picking a squadron was tongue-in-cheek on my part. I realize they can't pick a squadron (much less an aircraft) but I was curious how they sorted out the skill sets. IOW, there were no "Flight School" cards in any of the pictures I have seen. I have my answer.

In any case, I told you I could make it fit and I did - as both stupid and about aviation!

 

[Flash]

At this point it is currently Skipper dependent but there is talk from the wing that PEDs are going away. Taking it out of the pilot's hands will create a huge uproar....About a year ago we went from all paper pubs for what we call a CF-20, which is a panasonic hard book that is full computer but with touch screen and tablet functions....It isn't user friendly and few like it. It also costs more than an iPad pro and Foreflight sub.

Could be something akin to this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/a-map-showing-the-users-of-fitness-devices-lets-the-world-see-where-us-soldiers-are-and-what-they-are-doing/2018/01/28/86915662-0441-11e8-aa61-f3391373867e_story.html

The President gets/got the PDB on modified iPad, whatever security issues there are can be fixed pretty easily but the Navy contracts for something that is more expensive and less user friendly. So yet another win for Navy IT!

 

[ChuckMK23]

It'd be awesome if the JO jobs were on the backs of those cards too.

You pick USS Snoop Dogg before one of your fellow mids can grizab the bizillet, turn the card over hoping to get a badass job but find out you're gonna be the new Wizz-O. Fochizzle.

Congrats to the new Auxiliary officer of USS Snoop Dog - CHT is gold!

 

[Scimitarze]

Not wanting to shit up the Initial Flight Gear thread, but how many flight jackets do aviators end up collecting throughout their career? Are there any old school brown leather ones still around?

 

[Brett327]

You get 1 leather jacket. If you need a replacement, you have to turn in the old one.

 

[Pags]

Not wanting to shit up the Initial Flight Gear thread, but how many flight jackets do aviators end up collecting throughout their career? Are there any old school brown leather ones still around?

Depends on the individual, where they deploy, and how much they like gear. I had 2xG-1s (one USN issued, one self purchased), 1 CWU-36, 1 CWU-45, and 1 massif flight jacket. Some guys have WEP jackets and some guys may have various iterations of fleece jackets/vests.

What do you mean "are their old school leather ones around?" If you mean are you issued a G-1 then yes, you are. If you mean do people wear vintage ones? Sure, I knew a guy who found an older G-1 on ebay and would wear that. Was still a G-1 but the leather and mouton where higher quality than the current issue G-1s at the time.

On top of the flight gear I also had a bunch of other coats to include an ike, a foul weather jacket, a reefer, and an NWU coat/fleece liner.

 

[Jim123]

* pleather/naugahyde

#savethenaugas

 

[Flash]

What do you mean "are their old school leather ones around?" If you mean are you issued a G-1 then yes, you are. If you mean do people wear vintage ones? Sure, I knew a guy who found an older G-1 on ebay and would wear that. Was still a G-1 but the leather and mouton where higher quality than the current issue G-1s at the time.

Apparently our flight jacket quality issues are nothing compared to the USAF's, I've seen plenty of them with where the leather has worn off on issue ones in several spots while I haven't seen that happen to USN ones yet.

 

[Pags]

Apparently our flight jacket quality issues are nothing compared to the USAF's, I've seen plenty of them with where the leather has worn off on issue ones in several spots while I haven't seen that happen to USN ones yet.

I'm not sure I understand....if it's actually a leather jacket then the leather can't wear off since it should be all leather. Or are you saying the faux leather finish wore off? Or that the smooth exterior leather came off and revealed the unfinished interior leather? A-2s were originally made out of horsehide I believe which made them nigh indestructible.

 

[Flash]

I'm not sure I understand....if it's actually a leather jacket then the leather can't wear off since it should be all leather. Or are you saying the faux leather finish wore off? Or that the smooth exterior leather came off and revealed the unfinished interior leather? A-2s were originally made out of horsehide I believe which made them nigh indestructible.

I'm presuming it the smooth exterior wore off, it was very obvious, and I've also seen some with cracks too. A couple of guys I knew mentioned the quality went down more than a few years ago now, something about where they source the leather and what kind it was, most USAF folks I know get their own now.