If only there was some sort of document that tells you such things and that you could regularly check 1-4 weeks after you canceled your leave...
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Stupid Questions about Naval Aviation (Part 3)
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If only there was some sort of document that tells you such things and that you could regularly check 1-4 weeks after you canceled your leave...
This thread makes me angry. A lot of the older guys are correct; only CO/XO can deny leave, DHs can only recommend disapproval. I've never seen a front office mandate leave, but I have seen people be encouraged to take leave to not lose leave due to the front office seeing losing leave the same as losing pay.
I've NEVER had a leave chit denied and the command has always managed to get everything done when I was away (granted I've usually asked for leave when I knew it was going to be approved). Have a I had to field a few phone calls? Sure, but nothing world ending, I'm just a LT for gods sake.
Having been a SWO (watch type, not boat type) and a Baby DH I've always been amazed when JOs come to me with use or lose but then bitch about how they're always at work and they hate it at the squadron. The world won't end and the squadron won't fall apart if you take a week off. Trust me, you've earned it.
I've NEVER had a leave chit denied and the command has always managed to get everything done when I was away (granted I've usually asked for leave when I knew it was going to be approved). Have a I had to field a few phone calls? Sure, but nothing world ending, I'm just a LT for gods sake.
Having been a SWO (watch type, not boat type) and a Baby DH I've always been amazed when JOs come to me with use or lose but then bitch about how they're always at work and they hate it at the squadron. The world won't end and the squadron won't fall apart if you take a week off. Trust me, you've earned it.
707guy
"You can't make this shit up..."
So you can't have the weekend off because you MIGHT have to fly....hahahaha!
Here is a snapshot of the approve/dissaprove screen. Recycle is a seperate choice.
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I'm not sure if they've fixed it in NSIPS, but one thing I did run into was if you are the approval authority, but you need to elevate the authority up the chain (ie, the CO). The system didn't allow you to do that, so it required you as the DH to make a final call on paper, but I would still coordinate with the CO. Two examples when this would happen:
1. Someone was going on leave for more than <insert command policy number> days of leave and it needs front office approval.
2. Not recommending leave for a maintainer for the requested period. As Pags said, ultimately, it's the CO who can deny it, but the system wasn't set up for him to do that, so I would have to officially deny it but with the CO's blessing.
Neither really applies to O's though, since it (in my experience) goes through the front office anyway.
NSIPS and NMCI are the Navy's way of reducing the admin burden (with loss of quality). So my question is what do the ITs and YNs do now that we are doing their job?
-ea6bflyr
The other day, one of my peeps discovered a major pay problem. So he went to PSD to take care of it. PSD's response: "Oh, you have to talk to DFAS for that." Um, isn't that why you're here?
Kind of reminds of this:
That was your own dumbass fault for leaving your phone on and then answering said phone...especially with the advent of caller ID...thought you were smarter than that....
Pickle
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The same nothing they were doing before the system came out....along with the PS winners...NSIPS and NMCI are the Navy's way of reducing the admin burden (with loss of quality). So my question is what do the ITs and YNs do now that we are doing their job?
-ea6bflyr
MasterBates
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Wasn't the SDO phone. XO called me from a hijacked JO cell phone.That was your own dumbass fault for leaving your phone on and then answering said phone...especially with the advent of caller ID...thought you were smarter than that....
Pickle
mid1510
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Obviously. Just wondering why we do it and the AF doesn't. Clearly my question was too stupid for the stupid questions thread.
Or, for those of you who weren't even born when the above jewel of comedic history was released:
Reason why it always pays to know who is SDO that day, just in case the duty office decides to play the call from the cell phone game as opposed to the duty office phone lest you screen your calls.