sTUPID qUESTIONS aBOUT ocs

[eas7888]

This is actually pretty sad. On the Army reserve side, we would routinely have in excess of 2000 extra rounds that we would have to 'burn' off at the end of our range qualifications twice per year. On some ranges, like the M249 range, we would have almost 5-6000 rounds of extra ammunition to 'familiarize' with after all of our soldiers had qualified.

Different budgets, I suppose, but I don't see why more money isn't allocated to a critical area like range training, especially for sailors who are headed in harms way. I suppose everyone has to take a different bite of the shit sandwich that is budget cuts.

 

[twobecrazy]

This is actually pretty sad. On the Army reserve side, we would routinely have in excess of 2000 extra rounds that we would have to 'burn' off at the end of our range qualifications twice per year. On some ranges, like the M249 range, we would have almost 5-6000 rounds of extra ammunition to 'familiarize' with after all of our soldiers had qualified.

Different budgets, I suppose, but I don't see why more money isn't allocated to a critical area like range training, especially for sailors who are headed in harms way. I suppose everyone has to take a different bite of the shit sandwich that is budget cuts.

Well I think the point that is being made is that not everyone in the Navy needs to qualify. When you get to the fleet you will qualify if you are going to be put in harms way. By only qualifying individuals that need it they can allocate the savings from the individuals that don't to something else that the Navy needs.

 

[eas7888]

Well I think the point that is being made is that not everyone in the Navy needs to qualify. When you get to the fleet you will qualify if you are going to be put in harms way. By only qualifying individuals that need it they can allocate the savings from the individuals that don't to something else that the Navy needs.

I understand that sailors going in to harm's way have the opportunity to qualify before deploying. The bare minimum of 'qualifying' does little to ensure proficiency, however. That's why I was saying range training (not just qualifying) is a critical area.

 

[twobecrazy]

I understand that sailors going in to harm's way have the opportunity to qualify before deploying. The bare minimum of 'qualifying' does little to ensure proficiency, however. That's why I was saying range training (not just qualifying) is a critical area.

I couldn't agree more. However, I don't think the Navy is going to change anytime soon.

 

[MasterBates]

With the amount of Firearms "training" the navy has given me in three deployments doing feet dry flying in bad dirkaland, I'd be fucked if that was all I had and I ended up needing to use my sidearm.

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[StompinNightmare]

When folks who head to Iraq get the bare minimum to qualify, I am not surprised they laugh at Candidates who request to qualify "just cause". It'd be nice, but I guess the ammo budget is tighter than a snare drum... ?

I don't think it's the ammo budget, I think it's the OCS budget in general. I mean...just look at Nimitz hall for crying out loud.

 

[OUSOONER]

I don't think it's the ammo budget, I think it's the OCS budget in general. I mean...just look at Nimitz hall for crying out loud.

I beg to differ...exposure to asbestos is good Navy training.

 

[Boomhower]

With the amount of Firearms "training" the navy has given me in three deployments doing feet dry flying in bad dirkaland, I'd be fucked if that was all I had and I ended up needing to use my sidearm.

Quoted for troof. I was anything but "proficient" with my sidearm when I was feet dry.

I would have been better off throwing the pistol at them. However, I have documented here before that I may be the worst pistol shot on the planet. Yet, I managed to get an "E"? Never figured that one out.

 

[dmoney5857]

I'm about to graduate college and according to my OR the officer programs are shut down for now to non-technical degrees. Would going ahead and enlisting after I graduate and applying while i'm enlisted be a good idea, or should I wait until boards open again? thanks

 

[OUSOONER]

Just tell them when you graduate...TECHNICALLY you will have a degree. That should do it. Jokes aside... However, "closed to non-technical" degrees is absurd, I would just call another Officer Recruiter and just casually ask if that is true..without saying "My OR said..." or name dropping.

That being said, it could be true (unlikely) or also keep in mind, that the Navy can afford to be very very picky right now...so you could also be getting blown off if the recruiter feels your entire body of work isn't competitive with the others. There are many possibilities, but it all just comes down to how bad you want it....and no, enlisting JUST to become an officer is not the answer.

 

[bluemarlin04]

I'm about to graduate college and according to my OR the officer programs are shut down for now to non-technical degrees. Would going ahead and enlisting after I graduate and applying while i'm enlisted be a good idea, or should I wait until boards open again? thanks

Enlisting to Officer is a long long long road with absolutely no guarantee that you will even apply. Between deployments, training, competing for evals and studying for advancement the odds become stacked against you really quick.

Just tell them when you graduate...TECHNICALLY you will have a degree. That should do it. Jokes aside... However, "closed to non-technical" degrees is absurd, I would just call another Officer Recruiter and just casually ask if that is true..without saying "My OR said..." or name dropping.

That being said, it could be true (unlikely) or also keep in mind, that the Navy can afford to be very very picky right now...so you could also be getting blown off if the recruiter feels your entire body of work isn't competitive with the others. There are many possibilities, but it all just comes down to how bad you want it....and no, enlisting JUST to become an officer is not the answer.

I agree. Call another OR and see what he says. Your recruiter may just think you're not competitive. He may be telling the truth. However, I do know enlisting is not the answer unless you absolutely want to be enlisted and serve in that respect.

 

[dmoney5857]

Thanks fellows, to be 100% truthfull I dont graduate until August 2012, so hopefully room will have been made by then for new OCS hopefulls. My OR said to call back in July and check with him about the boards...I guess he was telling the truth about Supply and everything being shut down for now Idk, I feel like I would be competitive though.

 

[SWO Bro]

random and stupid question but i don't know the answer and I want to so i'll send it out there... in terms of "hygiene time" do we all shower together or is it individual showers?

 

[BigJeffray]

random and stupid question but i don't know the answer and I want to so i'll send it out there... in terms of "hygiene time" do we all shower together or is it individual showers?

There are 5 shower stalls per head. For at least the first week you will always make head/hygiene calls as a group, and you won't get much time to shower, so you'll have to do it very quickly or find something more creative if necessary. Eventually you will get enough time to take a relatively comfortable shower. You likely will not forget your hygiene time on Wakeup Wednesday, though.

 

[SWO Bro]

thanks... thats one of those questions I was not going to ask my OR about haha.