Were there any particular sessions that caused a lot of people to DOR? I’m just trying to be as best prepared as possible. Whether it’s a crazy amount of HIIT cardio, lots of pushups, sit ups, etc.
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sTUPID qUESTIONS aBOUT ocs
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Honestly, physical fitness isn't the main reason people DOR. It's the mental game. You don't have to be a PT stud to make it through, you just need to put out 100%. That being said, the early evolutions are what seems to get people. You see the most DORs when people fail the IST or roll for First Friday or fast cruise and they're told "you're not good enough to stay with your current class, here's 3 more weeks of OCS." After the first 2 weeks, DORs are far less common.
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abctotheabc
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People don't ever DOR from PT (not saying they couldn't though that would just be sad if they did), it usually is just the first three weeks, IST, First Friday, Fast Cruise, etc.
I actually saw a guy DOR during morning PT, it was pretty sad. He was in H company and one of the DI's was getting on him for not doing something correctly and was going to start RPT'ing him and the dude just took his glow belt off. I was a candio at the time babysitting the H'ers and I had to escort him off the field.
I got TNPQ'd from my first (hopefully not only) attempt at OCS, which involved some time in med hold and some more time in student pool (where the DORs and other to-be-separateds go) while they processed me out. Most of the people in student pool are DORs, with a smattering of TNPQs and NPQs. The common thread I found among DORs is that they had come to OCS for reasons other than "I want to be here." A lot of them had effectively been peer pressured into joining and were not there of their own volition. One individual comes to mind who accepted bonus money for sub nuke but failed to think through the implications of accepting that money. Another, slotted for NFO, had a father in the Navy who he didn't want to disappoint, but when the reality of his commitment hit him, he realized it wasn't the life he wanted. Others were wooed by recruiters and recruiting media but lacked a grasp of what actually being in the military might mean. Class teams have a knack for finding these people quickly and applying the heat.
I didn't meet a single prior who had DOR'd. I bumped into a couple in med hold and one in student pool who had been caught cheating on WATCH-O. But no DORs. The priors knew what they were getting into and knew that's what they wanted.
Not to diminish the difficulties involved with OCS - and it certainly involves some difficulty - but there is a lot of power in simply wanting to be there. You might roll an evolution, but attrites aren't that common (IIRC) and nobody can force you to DOR.
You can't make the stuff that sucks not suck. But if you want to be there and you don't get injured or break the rules, nobody can make you leave.
AIRMMCPORET
Plan “A” Retired
Yep, best job I ever had. They finally kicked me out after 30 years.?
Is it common at OCS to be in a monogomous relationship with the WATCH-O?
colonial-aviation
Intermediate Jet
About how much time did you put towards studying Appendix B before OCS? RLP seems like the evolution that’d be hardest for me personally so I want to prepare accordingly.
Honestly you have no reason to show up there without knowing that stuff, if you say you want to prepare accordingly then just learn it?
colonial-aviation
Intermediate Jet
I guess that was a stupid question lol. For the more recent graduates, how was RLP?
RLP prep and the inevitable stress of wondering if you will fail or not is the worst part of OCS. RLP itself is over before you know it and if you prepared physically and learned your knowledge you really shouldn’t have an issue
Like the person above me said - be prepared. Yes you will be nervous, yes you will be screaming very loud, yes you will be doing a lot of physical activity. The better you have appendix B memorized, the better you will perform. Go over it until you can do burpees while saying it, because that’s what will happen eventually.
First impressions are big on RLP as well. If you look like a bag of ass, your inspector will probably tear you a new one and fail you. Take the time and make sure you’re squared away.
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whentherearenine
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Has anyone found a recording of Anchors Aweigh consistent with current Appendix B? I could record myself but my singing voice is maybe a step above Gilbert Gottfried's.
I ran into two while I was there. One actually got out as a third class and came back to OCS later, so really no big deal since he was going back to civilian life.
The other guy reverted back to his old rank and was just hanging out in student pool for a long time. It honestly made me really sad to think about -- knowing how much effort it takes to get a package together on active duty, and knowing that you're going to have TWO evals saying that you separated to go to OCS, then returned after failing to complete. How much of a pariah would that make you feel like? Could you ever bring it up without getting eye rolls or choked out? It seemed like less work just to commission. I just hope he's still happy with the decision.
On the USS Hepburn we had a sailor who quit the Naval Academy in the first month of his last year there. The Navy held his feet to the fire and he was serving his three years owed. To be fair, he was a hard worker, a good shipmate, and quite accepting of his lot in life at that time.