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Substituting Navy Collar Devices for Marine
- Thread starter mmx1
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OK, talking out of my ass here but at what did the Marines become flexible on u-n-i-f-o-r-m?
I'd bet a buck that there's no difference...why would there be? All "Naval service"...same manufacturer...
I've got an idea: Ask some of your Marine Flight Instructors if they have any "left over" 1LT bars that you could borrow until you get yours. If someone asked me, I'd lend them my old bars that I have stashed away in the closet. OR you could come down to NAS Pensacola and get all the bars your little heart desires. 
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I was in a similar situation except where I was they had no JG rank and had 1stLt rank. I bought the 1stLt rank then later compared, the difference is extremely minimal and I doubt you could really even tell the difference without a side by side comparison, even then like I said, it's small. I wouldn't sweat it.
There can't be two "JG"s in the squadron
phrogpilot73
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Umm, after reading both Navy and Marine Corps uniform regulations...
1stLt = Ltjg.
If there's any difference in size, it's purely because of manufacturer.
1stLt = Ltjg.
If there's any difference in size, it's purely because of manufacturer.
Actually, as phrog hinted at, it is a manufacturer diff, I suppose - Vanguard at (this) NEX vs my Officer's Equipment Company butterbars.
As a result of poking around, apparently the army bars are different - they're beveled, instead of rounded.
I stay away from Vanguard, which was hard to do in Pensacola since that was all the NEX sold. Their NFO wings are also too small. You can just look at them and tell, so one of my buddies measured them out and found out they were not tall enough according to our uniform regs. Officers Equipment Company wings don't have that problem.
I wouldn't risk it, I heard a story about a Marine 2nd Lt. who was in the similar position as you are and bought a set of Navy Lt JG bars. At first, this young Marine had no problems, but, as the story goes at least, eventually the young man began suffering many mysterious afflictions.
First, the man acquired a crippling coffee addiction, that left him a jittery mess. Then, later, he found he could only sleep for 2-3 hour increments at a time, which, combined with the coffee overdosing, made him nearly incomprehensible.
He couldn't even relax when he got home from work, because his self imposed 0-0-1-1-3 drinking policy eventually became 0-0-0-0-0 in order to ensure that he was always in a safe state (this improved his ORM Risk Category). Unfortunately, since he had lost all will to exercise, and he couldn't drink, he just ate fried chicken morning, noon, and night.
Finally, the facial hair on his upper lip began growing, and no matter how many times he shaved it, he was left with a dapper mustache - he eventually quit trying to shave it, after he found that all of his trousers had mysteriously become extra-large about the ankles.
Eventually this young Marine switched back to his USMC AUTHORIZED OFFICERS RANK INSIGNIA (as per MCO P1020.34G) and his trousers returned to size, his mustache fell away, he was able to sleep, drink, and PT again, he found he could drink coffee at a normal rate. His five girlfriends came back to him, and he found the 80's polo shirt that had been hidden away at the bottom of his closet. He got a tattoo in honor of this occasion.
/Eh, been reading too much Onion...
First, the man acquired a crippling coffee addiction, that left him a jittery mess. Then, later, he found he could only sleep for 2-3 hour increments at a time, which, combined with the coffee overdosing, made him nearly incomprehensible.
He couldn't even relax when he got home from work, because his self imposed 0-0-1-1-3 drinking policy eventually became 0-0-0-0-0 in order to ensure that he was always in a safe state (this improved his ORM Risk Category). Unfortunately, since he had lost all will to exercise, and he couldn't drink, he just ate fried chicken morning, noon, and night.
Finally, the facial hair on his upper lip began growing, and no matter how many times he shaved it, he was left with a dapper mustache - he eventually quit trying to shave it, after he found that all of his trousers had mysteriously become extra-large about the ankles.
Eventually this young Marine switched back to his USMC AUTHORIZED OFFICERS RANK INSIGNIA (as per MCO P1020.34G) and his trousers returned to size, his mustache fell away, he was able to sleep, drink, and PT again, he found he could drink coffee at a normal rate. His five girlfriends came back to him, and he found the 80's polo shirt that had been hidden away at the bottom of his closet. He got a tattoo in honor of this occasion.
/Eh, been reading too much Onion...