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SWA: Sick out? Work stoppage? ATC? WX? Oppression? Violation of rights? Tantrum?

heynowlookout

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No aircraft swap training issues for SW, they just allowed too many instructors to take a retirement. When demand came back there was no one to train all the guys on paid leave who lost currency. They scrambled to hire instructors and train them but that takes months. The company would love to have had everyone back months ago they just lack the training capacity. The paid leave program had a 30 day recall attached and they've been bringing people back early as fast as they can retrain them.

As already mentioned though, when you ignore reality and write an absolute best case schedule and hope for the best, you get fucked when it doesn't go perfect. This weekend was wholly on management.
 
ABMD

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Sam I am said:
Ohhhh...good eyeballs! lol You mean you don't slide the window back and fly with your elbow perched up there and the wind tousling your hair?

So the SWA ops department is really that screwed up?
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I guess it helps when they pickup their order from the drive through window.
 
wink

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Sam I am said:
Ohhhh...good eyeballs! lol You mean you don't slide the window back and fly with your elbow perched up there and the wind tousling your hair?

So the SWA ops department is really that screwed up?
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I taxied the MD80 clear view open arm out. On the -80 it was awesome. The CV was at a perfect location to rest your arm comfortably. Super quiet. Easy to wave to kids and signal ground crew and other planes. I loved closing the window as I taxied into position and completed final checklist items, enjoying the last bit of fresh air and shifting to a mental "flying mode".
 
Jim123

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wink said:
I taxied the MD80 clear view open arm out. On the -80 it was awesome. The CV was at a perfect location to rest your arm comfortably. Super quiet. Easy to wave to kids and signal ground crew and other planes. I loved closing the window as I taxied into position and completed final checklist items, enjoying the last bit of fresh air and shifting to a mental "flying mode".
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I'm jealous.
 
HAL Pilot

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wink said:
I taxied the MD80 clear view open arm out. On the -80 it was awesome. The CV was at a perfect location to rest your arm comfortably. Super quiet. Easy to wave to kids and signal ground crew and other planes. I loved closing the window as I taxied into position and completed final checklist items, enjoying the last bit of fresh air and shifting to a mental "flying mode".
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I've done that in the 767 and A330.
 
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There was no job action or sick out by the pilots. Nothing vaccine related. Pilots picked up more than an average amount of open trips. This was all on SWA management over scheduling.



They gave them paid leaves during COVID that have not yet expired. Again, all management's fault from their quest to quickly dump employees to save cost when COVID started without knowing all the facts or really having a plan.

Unfortunately for the Hawaiian pilots that took paid leave, our management had a clause that they could call them back early with 60 days notice.

Getting people trained, retrained and retrained again is also a problem due to all the airlines quest to immediately dump employees when COVID started. Guys were displaced to a different aircraft when pilots were dumped, assigned yet another aircraft when pilot started returning, and assigned to yet a 3rd or 4th aircraft as more pilots returned and company's started hiring to fill the early retirement loses or extended leave absences. I have a United friend who is on his 4th aircraft/position and keeps getting switched before training. He hasn't flown in at least 18 months but has been getting full guarantee. He's happy.

COVID was the usual management overreaction followed by more overreactions/over corrective reactions.
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Talk about a PR nightmare, now for most people it is a minor inconvenience and like most of us that have had something like that happen we get over it. The ones that I feel for are the ones that missed cruises, weddings, or other special events.
 
Sam I am

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Just jumping back in here...thanks for the insight into the SWA SNAFU...hope they get it ironed out, but as with everything this year it's got the "going to get worse before it gets better" feel.
 
scoolbubba

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Treetop Flyer said:
The deadline to get vaccinated get an exemption or get fired is November 24th, the day before thanksgiving. Fortunately nobody flies much then so it should be fine. Let’s go Brandon
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If you absolutely must make turkey day with gamgam, you probably ought to drive. Merrican has the same deadline as SWA, and rumor is about 30% of their bubbas don't have their ouchie yet.
 
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