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FormerRecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
TBH, it seemed like a good natured question of a guy/gal seeking knowledge. I didn’t research their posting history. I'm not trying to be a gatekeeper on here...WTF do you know about.OT/DT nuances? I'll tell you what, there are folks on this site that can relay their experiences. I dunno, maybe I'm wrong.🤫

I’m all about asking well in depth questions with discussion, but for someone like the OP who has a habit of asking very easy to find answers, not so much.
Can we fucking banish this dude to the esoteric threads of weird accession boards? 😁
 
Thank you for all your responses! TPS guys are few are far between around here and it's great to be able to hear from guys who have been through it or worked alongside it. It helps us in training gain a little bit more clarity on the fleet and all the different pathways that may be available in the years to come.

I'll make sure that I filter my questions through seasoned AirWarriors members before posting and will ensure that all further questions are very difficult to answer.
 

Waveoff

Per Diem Mafia
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Isn’t VX-30 kind of an anomaly in the test community? The VP folks that go straight from sea duty get P-3 qual’d unless they are using the Biz jets now for range clearance. I think they also have an E-2 but I could be wrong. They have some TPS billets but tbh I don’t know or understand why a range clearing mission or telemetry observations would require that.

Is there another half to that unit that I’m not tracking?
 

Brett327

Well-Known Member
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Super Moderator
Contributor
They have some TPS billets but tbh I don’t know or understand why a range clearing mission or telemetry observations would require that.
Flight test is flight test, and sometimes the system under test is an SM-6. Some of these aircraft have special EO/IR packages, or serve as telemetry and flight termination system relay for long range shots.
 

Waveoff

Per Diem Mafia
None
Flight test is flight test, and sometimes the system under test is an SM-6. Some of these aircraft have special EO/IR packages, or serve as telemetry and flight termination system relay for long range shots.
Gotcha. But maybe to clarify in the spirit of the original question, the flight test evolutions at VX-30 are likely not contributing to the flown aircraft themselves.
 

JTS11

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
I don’t need HR, I just need a search bar. Took me less than two minutes. I’m certain there are more. :)
Great pulls. I'm not capable or unwilling to do the research to call this shit out, but yeah I think it was a lot of people's perception.

but the HR dude calling out a dude in the pipeline...well it made me slightly angry.
 

sevenhelmet

Low calorie attack from the Heartland
pilot
Great pulls. I'm not capable or unwilling to do the research to call this shit out, but yeah I think it was a lot of people's perception.

but the HR dude calling out a dude in the pipeline...well it made me slightly angry.

I hear ya. I’m all for teaching a man to fish, but I also wouldn’t be anywhere near where I am today if people didn’t take the time to answer the occasional “silly question” along the way.

I think our general MO should be to answer the question, and then point folks to the search function or another thread if it’s going to help them. Obviously there will be exceptions, like trolls, or people who are simply being lazy. However, I don’t think this thread was one of those.
 

Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
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Super Moderator
Contributor
Isn’t VX-30 kind of an anomaly in the test community? The VP folks that go straight from sea duty get P-3 qual’d unless they are using the Biz jets now for range clearance. I think they also have an E-2 but I could be wrong. They have some TPS billets but tbh I don’t know or understand why a range clearing mission or telemetry observations would require that.

Flight test is flight test, and sometimes the system under test is an SM-6. Some of these aircraft have special EO/IR packages, or serve as telemetry and flight termination system relay for long range shots.

VX-30 was a pretty nice option for the pilots out of VQ back in the day, they would get qual'd in either NP-3D telemetry birds or DC-130A drone launchers but also C-26's where they racked up a bunch of hours flying C-26's to China Lake and elsewhere, apparently it was daily shuttle to and from China Lake. I did a couple of dets doing testing down there with the EP-3 and the Prowler and really enjoyed it, the flying and the area.
 

JTS11

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
I hear ya. I’m all for teaching a man to fish, but I also wouldn’t be anywhere near where I am today if people didn’t take the time to answer the occasional “silly question” along the way.

I think our general MO should be to answer the question, and then point folks to the search function or another thread if it’s going to help them. Obviously there will be exceptions, like trolls, or people who are simply being lazy. However, I don’t think this thread was one of those.
Totally agree. You eat what you kill as far as some knowledge learning goes. WRT to this OP I believe it was a totally normal RFI and in good faith. That should be the going in position for responders on here, unless there are obvious red flags.

I wish I had a site like this during the application process and through flight school. Didn't know about AW until after my 3rd overseas deployment. I think it's an invaluable resource.
 

MIDNJAC

is clara ship
pilot
I wish I had a site like this during the application process and through flight school. Didn't know about AW until after my 3rd overseas deployment. I think it's an invaluable resource.

I was fortunate in finding this at the appropriate time. I believe I actually joined in 2001 during my freshman year of college, but it must have been with a different username or something. Either way, this place was a real gold mine from applying to NROTC (I was a transfer student and applied to college program in 2003), completing the program, applying to aviation/service selection queries, through flight school. I feel like the "what %" question was even begrudgingly entertained back then. Hopefully I've been able to give some of that back over the years since.
 
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AllAmerican75

FUBIJAR
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Contributor
Test squadrons are grouped by the type of aircraft flown. What you fly determines where you go (usually)
  • VX-20 (Pax) is C-130 and other big wing
  • HX-21 (Pax) is helo & V-22
  • VX-23 (Pax) is jets
  • UX-24 (Pax) is UAS
  • VX-30 (China Lake) is also C-130/big wing
  • VX-31 (China Lake) is jets, for the purpose of weps testing
Are there still any units at Point Mugu or have they all been moved to China Lake? I always though Port Hueneme and Point Mugu were the hidden gems of the Navy's bases.
 
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