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The end of NATO?

Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
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“Whataboutism” is what lazy minds use when people take on the ONLY comparative point humans have - the past. It is a stupid term that should be done away with because it is intended to do one thing…stop debate about issues that should be debated.

Some facts being tossed around here…

1. Signal-gate is a colossal screw up and it matters.
2. The withdrawal from Afghanistan was a colossal screw up and it matters.
3. SecDef Austin went missing for days and it matters.
4. The Milley/Trump war of words was embarrassing and it matters.
5. GW Bush changing “prisoners of war” to “enemy combatants” was a mistake and it matters.
6. This list could go on for years…and it all matters.

We can, and should, use every related event and fact from our past to debate an issue at hand to understand how people, the press, and even the government responded. Signal-gate is nothing new under the sun, but it important to flesh it out and learn from it. Mistakes happen, the armed forces and nation will survive, and hopefully lessons will be learned.
 

robav8r

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“Whataboutism” is what lazy minds use when people take on the ONLY comparative point humans have - the past. It is a stupid term that should be done away with because it is intended to do one thing…stop debate about issues that should be debated.

Some facts being tossed around here…

1. Signal-gate is a colossal screw up and it matters.
2. The withdrawal from Afghanistan was a colossal screw up and it matters.
3. SecDef Austin went missing for days and it matters.
4. The Milley/Trump war of words was embarrassing and it matters.
5. GW Bush changing “prisoners of war” to “enemy combatants” was a mistake and it matters.
6. This list could go on for years…and it all matters.

We can, and should, use every related event and fact from our past to debate an issue at hand to understand how people, the press, and even the government responded. Signal-gate is nothing new under the sun, but it important to flesh it out and learn from it. Mistakes happen, the armed forces and nation will survive, and hopefully lessons will be learned.
Griz, you betta shut yo mouth, I hear the moral outrage police cumin’ and they gonna haul you, and your security clearance away !!!
 

Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
pilot
Contributor
Griz, you betta shut yo mouth, I hear the moral outrage police cumin’ and they gonna haul you, and your security clearance away !!!
My clearances are so outdated that all that’s expected of me is to set all my passwords to the word…password.
 

Faded Float Coat

Suck Less
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Griz, you betta shut yo mouth, I hear the moral outrage police cumin’ and they gonna haul you, and your security clearance away !!!
Again, @robav8r , I'm intrigued, does Bartstool Dave's commentary (that you shared here as "interesting") count as "moral outrage" or is it just commentary? See, I'm confused. Because Dave said a lot of things that folks here have also expressed. Which one is interesting and which one crosses your threshold?

Contrarianism isn't a virtue.

Also, you misspelled "comin'" 👌
 
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taxi1

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Attorney General Pam Bondi declared Thursday that information about a pending military operation in Yemen that was mistakenly shared with a journalist in a Signal group chat was “not classified.” Speaking at a news conference, Bondi said: “It was sensitive information, not classified...

That's just such excruciatingly painful, magnificently bold-faced bullshit.

Go big or go home, I guess.
 

Fallonflyr

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I’ve never seen NAOC pull security in picklesuits. Not to say they can’t and don’t have the ability to use aircrew, but if they were at Andrews this is all likely for show because they could have used base security forces or the other fly away security they carry
Those ladies were issued protection just in case SecDef tries to get too handsy.
 
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