phrogpilot73
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It is nice... I was lucky enough to be one of the dudes that got to test it... Works much better in the rotary wing world than the old stuff.
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The Great Flight Jacket Thread (wearing/buying Leather, NOMEX, WEP jackets/patches)
- Thread starter Lt_SNA_USMC
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I haven't seen anyone bold enough to wear it with khakis yet.
Someone was telling me that you can't even wear your regular green flight jacket with a flight suit outside of the squadron in Norfolk.
Anyone have a picture of the jacket???
Congress sets limits on end strength for the services and how many officers can be in each rank* and how long they can serve (unlike Civil War era when admirals would never retire and nobody could be promoted until they gave it up or died). They also approve the perks for Flags officers (cars, staff, etc.) and how many DCNO and ACNO (or DC/AC for HQMC) billets are authorized.
*Senate also must approve all promotion lists (usually approved as submitted except for dark days after Tailhook scandal)
Uhhh ... mebbe .... just don't ask me to wear it to the O'Club for Happy Hour on Friday ...
phrogpilot73
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I only wore it while flying... It was great for that. It looked mighty gay otherwise. The Leather was for the Club...Uhhh ... mebbe .... just don't ask me to wear it to the O'Club for Happy Hour on Friday ...
Shucks ... all we wore were polyester, flowered, Hippie shirts ....
Just curious...why is that? In my last squadron (HSL), it seemed like all of the pilots and crewman gave up their nomex for the Gore-Tex, but I didn't see anyone else throughout the air wing wearing it.
MasterBates
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It was a det-by-det thing in HSL-42. If you were going where it was cold, you got it. Otherwise, no.
Unless you happened to be the CO of the USS Cole.
phrogpilot73
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For us in Phrog land, it gets VERY cold in the winter time. Even if we button up everything, the AO window is still not installed. Not to mention that I haven't seen but 1 or 2 working heaters in my career. Most of us started to get ahold of the new fleece/gortex combo and never looked back. It's MUCH warmer than the nylon/nomex stuff of yesteryear. They even have a nomex fleece mask with a hole for the boom mic for the guys in back.
Saw a couple of dudes on the Boat wearing the GoreTex, mostly guys who were at Pax and were issued them for wear-testing. They certainly looked warmer and more comfy than Nomex. Like Phrog said, sure seemed like a good deal for the open-air phlyers. Downside: they can't be "patched up," unless you heat-seal the seams on the inside. I'd love to have one in addition to the Nomex, maybe as a liner for the lightweight instead of issuing the winterweight. But instead of the Nomex...not so much.
Incidentally, for those really cold flying days, two words: heated socks. Gerbings and some other companies make socks that have heating elements (like an electric blanket) and are battery-powered. It's amazing how much better you feel overall just with warm toes.
Incidentally, for those really cold flying days, two words: heated socks. Gerbings and some other companies make socks that have heating elements (like an electric blanket) and are battery-powered. It's amazing how much better you feel overall just with warm toes.
Also, if you don't want to wear the outer gore-tex layer the polartec fleece jacket and/or vest looks warm. I tried and tried to get the PRs to order me a set. When they finally came in I was told, "Oh, the wing ordered those and you can't have any." If only I had a key to that connex box...
"Multi-Climate Protection System (MCPS)"... I guess "fuzzy jacket" wouldn't be very military.