I'll echo Fester's sentiment above. Wear what you have. In fact, I think I'll pass the word through STUCON that Leather Jackets are fair game.
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The Great Flight Jacket Thread (wearing/buying Leather, NOMEX, WEP jackets/patches)
- Thread starter Lt_SNA_USMC
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I'll echo Fester's sentiment above. Wear what you have. In fact, I think I'll pass the word through STUCON that Leather Jackets are fair game.
-ea6bflyr
+1 for Hard Saying!
I'll echo Fester's sediment above.
-ea6bflyr
"Sediment????"
Ok, you got me...I meant sentiment. I guess my COMP SCI degree is really paying off.
-1 to me for being a dumb ass.
-ea6bflyr
Ok, you got me...I meant sentiment. I guess my COMP SCI degree is really paying off.
-1 to me for being a dumb ass.
-ea6bflyr
Not at all...like "when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor", you were on a roll. Didn't know if you were using an obscure play on words or what?
Word on the street is that Nomex jackets are on backorder, and only leather jackets are being issued right now (API issue). So you're either going to start seeing more leather jackets being worn, or more Ike jackets and SWOters.
Agreed... I went through high school with a 6 foot tall wooden version of that patch in my garage. -My dad was the last CO of VP-24 when they decom'ed.
Thanx for sharing
Nice jackets, thanx!
Especially the double-winged nametag on the G-8 (WEP)!
Here are my flight jackets- The green one I wore from 1970-1985 when an asshole Academy Grad CO outlawed it, then my Leather one which I wore throughout my career... We didn't worry bout no stinkin rules
Nice jackets, thanx!
Especially the double-winged nametag on the G-8 (WEP)!
Here are my flight jackets- The green one I wore from 1970-1985 when an asshole Academy Grad CO outlawed it, then my Leather one which I wore throughout my career... We didn't worry bout no stinkin rules
Nice pics. What do you have hanging from the collar on the leather flight jacket?
That is actually a Winter Flying (Suit) jacket that could be attached to matching pants and worn in conjuction with a "poppy suit". Many call it the "WEP" jacket, but that is an Urban Legend created by commerical manufacturers who seized upon its popularity and took "WEP" the label nomeclature. WEP actually means origin of the contract: BUWEP was Bureau of Weapons that existed in same timeframe as Bureau of Ordnance and Bureau of Aeronautics (later BUAER and BUWEP were merged into NAVAIR).
The tag looks like this:
BUWEP-U.S. Navy
JACKET, WINTER FLYING SUIT
SPEC. MIL-(L)-183428 (WEP)
When I walked in the duty office that day, I kind of did a double-take. I was thinking "WTF are you doing wearing that??" I don't even OWN one of those things and the SWO jacket is in the bowels of my closet, probably worn once.
I am getting annoyed every time I tell someone to buy brown shoes (when they are at the squadron doing the "khaki dance", when on duty or checking in), and they tell me "it's bad luck" or "I thought I'd wait until I winged".... to include the guy who was syllabus complete and STILL in black shoes.
The SWOter is even worse. I almost forgot where I was for a second. Honestly, it's NEVER been that cold that I had to wear the leather jacket. On top of which, we can wear the NOMEX flying, so I wear that in case I decide to take it to the helicopter. HOWEVER, if it does get cold enough, it's a no brainer. GROW A SACK (yes, even the female ENS on duty), and put it on. Just don't wear it out in town like some idiots (who might THAT be?) in a military town.
All the new studs checking into TW-5 should have to get an etiquette briefing from you. That way they'd know that you are the final authority on uniforms and you will tell them exactly what to do.
Seriously, get off your soap box, it's boring. If they don't want to wear said items, fine, it's not like they are breaking the regulations.
Instead of telling other studs they are fvcked up (who, by the way, are doing NOTHING wrong), pass advanced instead.
I was rocking my leather jacket with a flight suit last winter and a LtCol stopped me for not having it zipped up to nametag level. My response was along the lines of,"That's a rule?!?"
"If you have it on, it has to be zipped up"
"Okay, sir..."
That correction lasted about 5 minutes. Zipped-up looks horrible.
"If you have it on, it has to be zipped up"
"Okay, sir..."
That correction lasted about 5 minutes. Zipped-up looks horrible.
FlyinRock
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I'M WITH YOU.
The only caveat is when some analretentive figures it ain't cool when its cold out!
Its a jacket!!
Got my first one in 1954 and wore it proudly in Korea at K-3
When I got commissioned my nrotc unit XO told me to get a jacket a few sizes larger...because "you will get bigger no matter what." Thank God I followed that rule, a few years of donuts, coffee and sitting in a marked unit for 8 hours a day make that jacket nice and perfect.
Especially when it's several sizes too big!
When my class finally got to go to the greatly anticipated flightgear issue, word was already out from preceding classes that the Leather Jacket supplies were being drained rapidly due to cancellation of the coveted icon. A DLA audit had revealed much abuse in handing out leather flight jackets (any unit could order them as a NSN item so they were used for barter or to equip anyone with a fine jacket). By the time we lined up, there were only ultra large and ultra small sizes left. Ultra small was obvious, but you could get by with the larger size if you did not zip it.