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The need for Speed
- Thread starter nugget61
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Controlled conditions and a bunch of caveats as to how they got it to go that fast.
Fuel and loading, no stores or anything, wash the jet, maybe loose the paint (you laugh but its weight) etc.
Apaches can do 192 mph according to Boeing. Throw 16 hellfires on it, and it wont break 100 knots.
Ah that makes sense. Misleading of them, but makes sense.
And WRT paint - thats why AA goes polished. Nice look, too.
Is it allowed for someone to say what the max practical speed of the f14 & f4 are?
Pretty much 0 KIAS these days. (Just a ballpark figure, though.)
It was a slick -18C with -400 motors ... I don't recall the exact circumstances but we just got the jet back from NADEP & the flight was a confidence hop to clear a landing gear grip. The gear came up with no problems so I went out to the SOA's to log some flight time....
I started above 40k in AB until I couldn't get any faster level, then I unloaded ... I ran out of airspace at 1.55 & around 30k... the jet was vibrating so bad that I thought it was going to fall apart. I'm fairly certain I couldn't have gotten to 1.6. Needless to say, I was out of gas rather quickly.
You're right though, there aren't many chances to get a totally slick Hornet, single ship, out to a working area where you can go through the number.
S/F
I started above 40k in AB until I couldn't get any faster level, then I unloaded ... I ran out of airspace at 1.55 & around 30k... the jet was vibrating so bad that I thought it was going to fall apart. I'm fairly certain I couldn't have gotten to 1.6. Needless to say, I was out of gas rather quickly.
You're right though, there aren't many chances to get a totally slick Hornet, single ship, out to a working area where you can go through the number.
S/F
darrylcn
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The speed/alt record F-15 was paint free too, so someone else thinks it's heavy too, nugget.
Cool story....that was my next question. I've seen about 560 at about 400' trying to stay in spread with lead....I knew I was going fast when something that usually doesn't make much sound at all starts getting loud.
In US operational service that would be true. Plenty of F-4s out there OCONUS and Iran still operates its Tomcats. Fastest F-4 on the planet would have been a few specially modified Israeli Phantoms (Peace Jack) that were designed to cruise at 2.7M and dash to Mach 3+. State Dept put a halt to final delivery, but Israeli did develop several RF-4E(S) high speed variants. One even ran a pursuing Iraqi MiG out of gas.
Yeah, yeah, yeah...
Look - when I posted that, the Rangers were down 5-1. As a Devils fan, I was happier than a pig in sh!t. I posted something, fully understanding that I would be smacked down at some point by a mere technicality. Thanks for killing my buzz. Now, hopefully the Devils will beat the crap out of the Whalers, so my weekend can be complete.
"I hope it feels so good to be right. There's nothing more exhilarating than pointing out the shortcomings of others, is there?"
And they're not allowed to rent here anymore!
You weren't even supposed to be here today, were you?
We need to give the Israelis credit: they took the F-4 & the F-16 and made them uniquely better a/c. They may have done the same w/ the F-15, I just don't know. I believe they put 20,000lb. thrust engines in the Phantom, among other things.
FWIW, the British F-4 also had 20,000lb thrust engines, but it was the slowest Phantom flying. They had several at Pax River back in the late 60's, and the Spey engines had this bad habit of flaming-out when you lit burner at altitude.
