The SHOW: Airlines still a "good gig"??

[FrankTheTank]

NO worries.. Like I have said time and time again. Make them show you schedules and pay summaries! They can log in and pull it all up very easily. Also look at their Flight Summaries cause if you want an airline flying job, FEDEX ain't it.. If you block over 350 hours a year, you are in the overachiever crowd.. :icon_mi_4

I keep my pay hours high working extra and I don't think I have ever broke 350.. In fact as a rolling summary, I have 278 in the last 12 months.

 

[Ralph]

You guys sound the exact opposite of FI, maybe there just negative.

 

[Fallonflyr]

I was talking to some young active duty guys a few years ago and they thought that was awesome that I had flown 87 hours that month. I had to explain to them that awesome is getting paid for 87 hours and flying 0.

 

[HAL Pilot]

The whole goal is to get paid for doing nothing. That's why about every 3 or 4 months I bid reserve for the month to increase my beach time.

 

[KBayDog]

The whole goal is to get paid for doing nothing.

In other words, continue to pursue government jobs?

 

[HAL Pilot]

The whole goal is to get paid very well while doing nothing. That's why about every 3 or 4 months I bid reserve for the month to increase my beach time.

In other words, continue to pursue government jobs?

I fixed it.

Actually, starting yesterday I'm on my Pacific beer drinking tour. First stop is Toyko (now), followed by Manila, Sydney, back to Manila, Toyko again and ending in Inchon with a few beach/beer days between trips on "Da Rock". After the tour it's hookers and blow in Vegas for a couple of weeks at the end of the month.

 

[phrogdriver]

You're my new hero.

 

[Banjo33]

....and not making things any easier! Lol

 

[Fallonflyr]

The less work an airline guy does, the more airline jobs there are. Keep up here guys.

 

[KBayDog]

The less work an airline guy does, the more airline jobs there are.

Again, just like a guv'ment job.

 

[Fallonflyr]

The first thing you need to do when you leave AD to go to the airlines is to get your head around the fact that you are no longer management. The airlines have management....they are the pussys who went to Hawvad to get their MBA's while you were out in the world doing manly things. They don't think like you.

You are labor. Your job is to get the best pay and working conditions for you and your fellow pilots as possible. If it makes it any easier for you, think of your company as the government and your contract as the Constitution.

 

[phrogdriver]

True that. Sometimes though, it's funny to see former military, who are usually conservative and were anti-union when it came to "lazy" autoworkers, construction workers, and such become staunch dues-paying union members when they go to the airlines!

 

[KBayDog]

True that. Sometimes though, it's funny to see former military, who are usually conservative and were anti-union when it came to "lazy" autoworkers, construction workers, and such become staunch dues-paying union members when they go to the airlines!

You'd be hard-pressed to find someone more anti-union than me (especially the mother f'ing teachers unions!), though I'll admit that unions served a purpose during much of the first half of the 20th Century.

I wonder, though, how many of us military folks - especially the ones that gladly jump ship and join the pilots' unions - hate the unions strictly out of jealousy: Jealousy that the workers have advocates that negotiate working hours, breaks, vacations, etc. I'll be the first to admit that 36 hours into a day of flying, duty, mission planning, fitrep/awards writing, and AOMs, a union-negotiated 8-hr workday with an hour for lunch sounds pretty good.

 

[Fallonflyr]

You'd be hard-pressed to find someone more anti-union than me (especially the mother f'ing teachers unions!), though I'll admit that unions served a purpose during much of the first half of the 20th Century.

I wonder, though, how many of us military folks - especially the ones that gladly jump ship and join the pilots' unions - hate the unions strictly out of jealousy: Jealousy that the workers have advocates that negotiate working hours, breaks, vacations, etc. I'll be the first to admit that 36 hours into a day of flying, duty, mission planning, fitrep/awards writing, and AOMs, a union-negotiated 8-hr workday with an hour for lunch sounds pretty good.

Looks like you get the "big picture". Your job on AD is to kill alot of people; in the airlines your job is to NOT kill a bunch of people.

 

[KBayDog]

Looks like you get the "big picture". Your job on AD is to kill alot of people; in the airlines your job is to NOT kill a bunch of people.

I'm a Phrog pilot. If I'm killing people, it's a really bad day...no matter how you look at it.

Point taken, though.