Tla?

[photonchick]

Anyone out there know if you are an NFO and you are on the housing waiting list (before API) if you are eligible for TLA while you wait for something to open up. I was told by someone at the housing office that our waiting list will be 1-2 months- but probably sooner. How's that all work? Will we have to pay for temporary lodging out of pocket? Where do most people with families stay during that time?

 

[webmaster]

Ok, you are confusing two different animals here. I think it has been awhile since we talked about, so here goes a refresher:

http://www.dtic.mil/perdiem/faq.html

Temporary Lodging Allowance (TLA) is for OVERSEAS.

http://www.dtic.mil/perdiem/tlafaq.html

The purpose of TLA is to partially reimburse a member for:

1. The more than normal expenses incurred while occupying temporary lodgings (including Temporary Lodging Facilities as defined in Appendix A) and

2. Expenses for meals obtained as a direct result of using temporary lodgings OCONUS that don’t have facilities for preparing and consuming meals.

TLA is authorized in the following circumstances:

1. Upon initial arrival (reporting) at an OCONUS PDS (includes reporting for TDY at a location within the limits of the new OCONUS PDS and waiting for assignment of Government quarters, or while completing arrangements for other permanent living accommodations when Government quarters aren’t available;

2. When the OCONUS commander designated by the Service concerned determines that for reasons beyond the member’s control, it’s necessary for a member once established in permanent quarters in the PDS vicinity to vacate those quarters, permanently or temporarily, and use temporary lodgings in the PDS vicinity while looking for other permanent quarters or waiting to reoccupy the permanent quarters;

3. While seeking permanent housing following a TDY period when a member without dependents vacated permanent housing before a TDY assignment of 90 days or more;

4. Immediately preceding departure on a PCS from an OCONUS PDS (includes reporting for TDY at a location within the limits of the old OCONUS PDS, after Government quarters are vacated in connection with PCS orders or after surrender of other permanent living accommodations; or

5. During a member’s hospitalization period while en route between PDSs when dependents are required to use temporary lodgings during the hospitalization period.

Temporary Lodging Expense (TLE) is for CONUS.

http://www.dtic.mil/perdiem/tlefaq.html

What is the purpose of TLE?

To partially offset lodging and meal expenses when a member and/or dependents need to occupy temporary lodging in CONUS in connection with a PCS.

When is TLE Payable?

When temporary lodgings are occupied:

a. before departure from the area of the old PDS and/or designated place within CONUS,

and/or

b. after arrival in the area of the new PDS and/or designated place within CONUS.

For how may days will I be paid TLE?

The time limitation for TLE is:

a. 10 days in connection with a PCS to a PDS in CONUS, (the days may be split between old PDS, new PDS and designated place as you choose),

or

b. 5 days in connection with a PCS to an OCONUS PDS, (the days may be split between old PDS and designated place as you choose). There’s a separate allowance called TLA at the OCONUS site.

You can get 10 days reimbursed, and they will pay up to the going rate for your local. The above link can answer most of your questions.

People stay in a variety of sources, Navy Lodge, or out in town at a hotel. Every time I have used it, it was at a hotel while we were searching for a place to live, or after we had packed out and moved out of our housing.

If you have any more questions after reading that, we should be able to answer them.

John

 

[photonchick]

Thanks John! I was only familiar with TLA because we were stationed overseas while my husband was enlisted. I checked out the TLE link you gave me. So now do you want to hook me up with some advice? We are planning on moving ourselves. If my husband gets his orders around the 12 week of OCS, can he get on the housing list then?-remember he is a NFO who will have orders to NAS. Will we get some sort of travel allowance to prior to our PCS move or does that get reimbursed? As far as TLE goes, do we get that upfront, or do we provide the Navy with receipts and then they reimburse us months later (as we have had before). These are probably really stupid questions, I just am trying to get a game plan going here, as I try to pack up a house, and get all of our little kids ready for the big move. Thanks for all your help ! :icon_mi_1

 

[photonchick]

Also- what other options are there around Pensacola outside of typical hotels? We need space- for our 5 kids, and attention deficet dog.

 

[webmaster]

If my husband gets his orders around the 12 week of OCS, can he get on the housing list then?

As long as you have your orders in hand and a page 2 to furnish to housing you should be good to go.

NAS Pensacola Housing website: http://www.naspensacola.navy.mil/housing.htm

Due to our current waiting periods for military housing, all service families arriving in the area will be required to locate housing in the local community while awaiting assignment to military housing. The current waiting time for enlisted quarters is in excess of one year. Waiting time for officer quarters varies from 3 to 18 months.

All eligible officers and enlisted personnel assigned to a command in the Pensacola area complex, including NAS Pensacola, NTTC Corry Station, Naval Hospital, Saufley Field and the Naval Air Technical Training Center are given equal opportunity to apply for military housing. Officer housing waiting lists are maintained by pay grade and size of family. Enlisted housing waiting lists for E1-E9 are maintained by size of family. Bedroom entitlement is based on one bedroom per child. Application should be made upon reporting to the area. Sponsors must provide a copy of Permanent Change of Station orders and Record of Emergency Data (page 2). The detachment date will become the effective date on the waiting list if application for housing is made within 30 days of reporting to Pensacola. Service members must have a minimum of six months remaining on their tour in Pensacola to accept assignment to military family housing units. ​

Will we get some sort of travel allowance to prior to our PCS move or does that get reimbursed?

Ok, you mentioned that you were prior enlisted earlier, but I am going to make the assumption that you went off active duty, and got picked up for OCS. Ok, first travel allowance:

Per Diem http://www.dtic.mil/perdiem/pdrform.html

While in transit you will get per diem for your travel, though not much for that "local" move from OCS to Pcola...

Dislocation Allowance http://www.dtic.mil/perdiem/faqdla.html

You wouldn't be eligible for DLA right out of OCS. For those like myself that were active duty that got commissioned, or on your NEXT set of PCS orders, you are eligible for DLA. NOTE: DLA IS NOT BASED OFF OF YOUR LOCATION!!!

Check out your DLA rates here: http://www.dtic.mil/perdiem/dla-2000-01-01.pdf O1 with dependents is $1368 for example.

I understand that as a uniformed member, I may receive a DLA to help with relocation expenses when moving my household due to a PCS. Is this true?

Answer: Yes - generally true. You may be entitled to a DisLocation Allowance (DLA) when relocating your household due to a PCS. However, keep in mind that DLA is intended to partially reimburse relocation expenses not otherwise reimbursed and probably will not reimburse all of your relocation expenses.

Am I entitled to DLA when moving from my home of record to my first duty station?

Answer: By law there is no DLA entitlement when the PCS is from your home (or the place where you entered active duty) to your first permanent duty station (PDS)unless your dependents actually move in connection with the PCS.​

As for travel allowance, you usually get up to ? 80% ? of your estimated travel claim upfront, that is if you have a good PSD, and you request it when you fill out your paperwork. The rest of course would get reimbursed when you file your travel claim.

You didn't bring up a DITY move (Do It Yourself Move), but that is another option to make some $$ off of.

One website on it: http://www.nsnpt.navy.mil/Code50/55/dity.htm

The Self Procured (DITY) program is an alternate means of moving your personal property. Ninety-Five percent of what is would have cost the government to move the property will be paid to you for a (DITY) move. Final settlement is based on the actual weight moved. Your actual costs are deducted from the 95% and the remainder is your financial profit, less applicable Federal and State taxes. Incentive payment estimates provided at the time of counseling are estimates only.

Under the Self Procured program you:

- Obtain the necessary equipment, materials, and vehicles to safely transport the property.
- Locate weight scales to obtain certified tare and gross weights.
- Obtain receipts for expenses.
- Submit settlement claim. If a final settlement claim is not made within 45 days after the start of the move, action will be taken to recoup any advanced operating allowances from your pay.
- Failure to comply with the provisions of the program limits reimbursement to actual expenses incurred not to exceed the cost the government would have paid to move your property. ​

As far as TLE goes, do we get that upfront, or do we provide the Navy with receipts and then they reimburse us months later (as we have had before).

You will provide the reciepts when you file your travel claim.

Also- what other options are there around Pensacola outside of typical hotels?

I honestly don't recall what hotel we stayed in, but you of course have the Navy Lodge there on base, and a variety of hotels off base. I was just moving down the road from Gainesville, so it wasn't that hard. Here are some useful links that may be helpful.

http://www.naspensacola.navy.mil/
http://www.naspensacola.navy.mil/baseguide2004/Guide.html
http://www.naspensacola.navy.mil/logistics/nasppo.html
http://www.dmdc.osd.mil/sites/owa/ShowPage?p=index

These are probably really stupid questions,

Yeah, I can't believe you are asking these questions... not... moving is definitely a stressful time, and I am sure other ppl have stuff to add to this, plus get something out of it.

 

[photonchick]

Webmaster- you rock :icon_wink Hey- I just noticed you are in Kaneohe. We spent 4 years at Pearl- my husband was a nuke on sub. We went to church every Sunday in Kaneohe- it is the best part of the island if you ask me! Have you been to that pizza place about 5 miles or so from the base? I swear they have the best pies anywhere- and they are as big as a table!

 

[photonchick]

Hold up! Why don't we get DLA out of OCS? I thought they paid for dependents to move from the home of record? Am I not understanding this right? If not, will the guys at PSD at least buy us dinner before they f$$$ us? :icon_tong

 

[webmaster]

Yeah, Kbay is a blast, my second tour in HI. I am a prior sub guy also, though I was a little bit smarter and was a "coner" and didn't get dirty in the engine room. Unless of course they called for the "sparkle team" to lay aft on off-going, damn them, interrupting my movie time... Think you are talking about Boston pizza, think that is the name, our gedunk in the hangar orders pizzas from them every once in awhile, good stuff.

As for DLA, are you guys coming straight from active duty, or did he get out, and then get picked up from OCS? Maybe some other prior enlisted guys that went the OCS route can chime in and pass on what their entitlements were. Best bet of course is to ask the hard questions at PSD when you do your travel, its amazing sometimes how they just don't fill you in on what your entitlements are.... before they of course :censored_ you...

 

[photonchick]

Yep, Boston Pizza, mmmmmmm! My husband did get out and then get chosen for OCS. We are planning on a dity move. I'm just trying to get all my proverbial ducks in a row. Anyone know anything about moving dependents to api?