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UFOs?

Hair Warrior

Hair Warrior

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Brett327 said:
There is also zero tangible evidence that any kind of advanced human technology is involved either. Again, this is your assumption due to your beliefs based on people's stories, inconclusive FLIR and radar tapes. The only factual aspect of any of this is that people saw something they can't explain. Full stop.
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Well, it wasn’t quite a full stop there - because after the VFA CO saw something he couldn’t explain, by his own admission he proceeded to recount the story to buddies multiple times, go on record with news media, and sit for multiple podcasts on the topic. I’ve never met CDR Fravor but I know he’s invested dozens of hours into various podcasts or interviews, and he keeps talking about it even though it’s 15 years old. Other personnel have also gone on record/ done media interviews, so it isn’t just one man’s claim, and it didn’t stop on the date of the training flight in question.
 
Brett327

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Hair Warrior said:
Well, it wasn’t quite a full stop there - because after the VFA CO saw something he couldn’t explain, by his own admission he proceeded to recount the story to buddies multiple times, go on record with news media, and sit for multiple podcasts on the topic. I’ve never met CDR Fravor but I know he’s invested dozens of hours into various podcasts or interviews, and he keeps talking about it even though it’s 15 years old. Other personnel have also gone on record/ done media interviews, so it isn’t just one man’s claim, and it didn’t stop on the date of the training flight in question.
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This is a bizarre non-sequitur. Believing in something doesn't make it objectively true, nor is that belief - however passionately held - a substitute for evidence when making an extraordinary claim.
 
jmcquate

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I know from first hand recollections, that what Sex saw, he couldn't explain, but kept focused on the VFA-41 combat deployment that the Nimitz air wing was doing work-ups for. It was a sea story, until the Times got a hold of it. Does it mean it's not true, (it is). But it never became a thing for, like you stated ,15 years. Go Occums Razor on this one.
 
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RoarkJr.

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jmcquate said:
Your "belief" Roark, fits nicely with the Sci-Fi fantasy of a galactic government that has to Shepard primitive planets that have discovered how the destroy themselves. At least be original.
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I didn’t specify what my beliefs are. But I’d say that they generally fall in line with the (what I perceive to be) credible evidence cited in my aforementioned documentaries/testimonies.

Have you looked into those at all?
The galactic government thing isn’t mentioned anywhere. Although this recent story comes to mind: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1250333
 
Flash

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jmcquate said:
The A-12 was "Archangel" the SR was "Oxcart". You'r an Navel intel guy?
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Pretty sure Archangel was the name of the program for the replacement of the U-2 while Oxcart was the name for the A-12 program, the winner of the Archangel program.
 
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